Slower and more Realistic ship Building and Troop Training ?

[LordMM]

unless major fleet engagements would tend more towards fewer losses and faster retreats, while making deep incursions into enemy territory into logistical challenges..

That's what i initially had in mind. That would be realistic. I doubt any ship Captian would just stand there getting mauled while they could jump instantaneously and retreat into another system. That would make Warfare fun, not to mention ship designs will also be more focused on survival than just DPS...

 

[13Foxtrot]

Which makes the portion of those resources required to build a fleet an increasingly smaller chunk.

If anything, economies of scales would make huge fleets increasingly easy to produce on a galactic scale.

not disagreeing on any point, its just that people seemed to think an entire planet is at the disposal of the military all the time.

 

[lemmox]

That's what i initially had in mind. That would be realistic. I doubt any ship Captian would just stand there getting mauled while they could jump instantaneously and retreat into another system. That would make Warfare fun, not to mention ship designs will also be more focused on survival than just DPS...

Nobody wants to do that, but retreat isn't always possible. If the enemy cuts off your escape or you can't disengage without being overwhelmed you may be stuck trying to make a last stand or surrendering.

Also, it's known that in Stellaris emergency FTL is quite risky, so any captain has to weigh the odds of getting blown up in battle against the odds of blowing up trying to retreat.

 

[kalauer]

I am sorry, is this still about longer building times? Are there new proposals on how Long ships should take?

 

[Yenzen]

Nobody wants to do that, but retreat isn't always possible. If the enemy cuts off your escape or you can't disengage without being overwhelmed you may be stuck trying to make a last stand or surrendering.

Also, it's known that in Stellaris emergency FTL is quite risky, so any captain has to weigh the odds of getting blown up in battle against the odds of blowing up trying to retreat.

"During the battle, I was able to blow up many ships with the push of a button..."

- Grand flock admiral Drinks Mildew Solemnly of the 3rd Gland Flock, in her rather short report about her last engagement.

 

[lemmox]

I am sorry, is this still about longer building times? Are there new proposals on how Long ships should take?

Yes it is, but the consensus seems to be that build times are fine as-is for the base game.

 

[LordMM]

Nobody wants to do that, but retreat isn't always possible. If the enemy cuts off your escape or you can't disengage without being overwhelmed you may be stuck trying to make a last stand or surrendering.

Also, it's known that in Stellaris emergency FTL is quite risky, so any captain has to weigh the odds of getting blown up in battle against the odds of blowing up trying to retreat.

Any Decent Space Admiral would order a retreat before getting his flanks and rear over run.
I would suggest the game Star Wars Rebellion, Try playing it you will know what i am talking about...

 

[The Danish King]

A battleship already takes nearly 500 days to produce. What are we discussing again?

 

[LordMM]

Yes it is, but the consensus seems to be that build times are fine as-is for the base game.

I just don't like the idea of building an entire fleet backup in 1 - 2 months.

 

[LordMM]

A battleship already takes nearly 500 days to produce. What are we discussing again?

Anywhere i can see the build times for different ships ?

 

[The Danish King]

Anywhere i can see the build times for different ships ?

Errr... the 3rd post in this very topic....?

 

[kalauer]

I just don't like the idea of building an entire fleet backup in 1 - 2 months.

With the current times, you can pump out the not very terrifying amount of 5 Corvettes in 1-2 months out of the 5 spaceports you control in your core territory.

 

[Yenzen]

Any Decent Space Admiral would order a retreat before getting his flanks and rear over run.
I would suggest the game Star Wars Rebellion, Try playing it you will know what i am talking about...

See Wiz' jumps with the last remaining battleships before they got destroyed in the stream. He just ended up destroying one them in the jump and the rest were caught up with right away. They might've been able to shoot down a few more enemy ships before going down, had he not.

 

[LordMM]

Errr... the 3rd post in this very topic....?

I saw that, but some ships were missing

 

[The Danish King]

I saw that, but some ships were missing

What ships?

You have pretty much every ship chassis there, maybe except the super-duper big ship that military junta(?) can constuct.

 

[kalauer]

See Wiz' jumps with the last remaining battleships before they got destroyed in the stream. He just ended up destroying one them in the jump and the rest were caught up with right away. They might've been able to shoot down a few more enemy ships before going down, had he not.

While it depends on the Situation, in this specifi one i would have guessed he may have been able to give two or three more shots. The mere Chance to save one ship seems a good trade-off against it. But that is an opinion, of course.

 

[kalauer]

I saw that, but some ships were missing

There are only 4 shiptypes for combat. Once more confirmed in the last stream.

 

[kalauer]

What ships?

You have pretty much every ship chassis there, maybe except the super-duper big ship that military junta(?) can constuct.

I guess that is just a battleship you Kind of get for free?

 

[LordMM]

There are only 4 shiptypes for combat. Once more confirmed in the last stream.

Ooh, thanks, i guess that puts this to rest..

 

[kalauer]

Ooh, thanks, i guess that puts this to rest..

Bright side is, you got what you wanted . And I agree that considerable shorter construction times would be unsettling.