Sliders?

[Timmetie]

I was wondering, as i've played some games to the end now. Should I be using the sliders more?

Usually when my economy starts running and I have some years of rest I get my stability at +3 and keep it there. Especially when my empire is expanding fast, so my research and stability costs are relatively high. So I never set my slider, i was moving it to centralism but that leads to huge chunks of my empire separating as vassals (with a different religion so no diplo annex) and a move back to decentralism. For once in 12 years it almost doesn't seem to matter as much. Any slider change also has negative effects and it costs me 4 years to get the stability back or something.

And then it's 1700 and it's sorta too late to get any serious realm shaping done.

So what to do?

 

[Capibara]

First, just change the sliders if you need it, if not, leave them there. And if it costs you so much to raise stabilty , just change them when you get an event raising your stab.

 

[jdrou]

i was moving it to centralism but that leads to huge chunks of my empire separating as vassals (with a different religion so no diplo annex) and a move back to decentralism.

How often are you seeing this? That event has a MTTH of 5000 months (416 years or 339 years at full centralization) so it should be rare to happen more than once in a game. Maybe twice if you also have a lot of bad monarchs.

 

[Timmetie]

4 times with great kings. Just bad luck I guess.

last times i just got the save game from earlier that year. Sucks to lose all my nice native american nations.

 

[Timmetie]

This is completely unrelated but i dont want to start a new thread.

the east indian trading route fires at :


NOT = { mercantilism_freetrade = -2 }

So.. that means I have to have mercantilism 2 sliders left from the middle right?
or do I need it at -3? or -1 and over?

 

[ZmajOgnjeniVuk]

This is completely unrelated but i dont want to start a new thread.

the east indian trading route fires at :


NOT = { mercantilism_freetrade = -2 }

So.. that means I have to have mercantilism 2 sliders left from the middle right?
or do I need it at -3? or -1 and over?

You have to have 3 or more points towards mercantilism.

 

[Timmetie]

dang, another 12 years. Thanks for the quick answer!

So any time a line sais NOT a = b they always mean the value less than the b?

 

[ZmajOgnjeniVuk]

dang, another 12 years. Thanks for the quick answer!

So any time a line sais NOT a = b they always mean the value less than the b?

Yes. And if there's a = b, then it means equal or greater than.

 

[jdrou]

4 times with great kings. Just bad luck I guess.

last times i just got the save game from earlier that year. Sucks to lose all my nice native american nations.

If it happens that often consistently there may be a problem. In some early patches there was an issue where MTTH was apparently capped at some relatively low value.

 

[Wizzington]

I always change sliders when I can - there's nearly always something I want to nudge in one direction or another, but really, only use the sliders if you feel you benefit from it enough to offset the stability hit.

 

[Nilmerf]

I always move my sliders whenever I can, and tend to maximize their benefits by putting them at one extreme or the other. Don't worry about the stability hits, it'll come back.

Most of them are pretty self explanatory and geared towards your strategy or for role-playing a certain country. I would always maximize Offensive though, no real downside and the shock damage is sweet.

 

[Timmetie]

Yea I was planning on maxing quality vs quantity because I have way too much money on my hands.

I hate to just pile all my problems on this but I would have called the new thread sliders as well..

When I change the slider from Trade to Production for example, it just keeps adding the monthly money to trade for a few months and then except of changing over it just stops altogether. It goes to none of the research area's, not to stability and not to the treasury.

I had to take a save game like 20 years ago and it was right for a year or so (I changed it once that year) and now it quit again.

Someone know what's going on?

 

[jdrou]

Are you closing the window after moving the slider?

 

[Timmetie]

I am not, I was tired of restarting and trying again with all the loading but i'm off to try some more now.