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Slavic Union and Russian Tsardom should be mutually exclusive...
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Just created the Russian Tsardom and then formed the Slavic Union.
Forming the Slavic Union is not restricted to a designated kingdom or empire, but is possible to all east and west Slavic kings and emperors.
Why is Russia red? That's disgusting. I'd be forced to rename it to Soviet union, Even though that's horribly inaccurate it'd still be more aesthetically pleasing than a red Russia.
Empire of Rus (e_russia) is still green, but Russian Tsardom (e_russian_empire) is red.
Well, It is the developers who set it, not me.
There's some funny business there since both empires get some of the same kingdoms as de jure land upon creation. I'm guessing that whichever is created second will "steal" de jure land from the other empire? Strange that they allow it indeed. My guess is that nobody thought of it, heh. 
It looks like everything that's "Russia" still on that map is outside original de jure Empire Russia, right?
So the stuff you owned that is default demure Pontic Steppe and Vulga Ural got added to Empire of Russia, but then Slavic Union pulled it's normal Kingdoms which includes basically the entire Wnedish and de jure Russian empires, but the Ponti-VU stuff stayed In your new Russia instead of going back.
So the stuff you owned that is default demure Pontic Steppe and Vulga Ural got added to Empire of Russia, but then Slavic Union pulled it's normal Kingdoms which includes basically the entire Wnedish and de jure Russian empires, but the Ponti-VU stuff stayed In your new Russia instead of going back.
They renamed the old Empire of Russia to "Empire of Rus" to (according to the patch notes) strengthen connection to historical Kievan Rus, then added a decision to "Form the Russian Tsardom" which renames Empire Rus to Empire Russia, gives you the Tsar titles and (apparently potentially!) Adds Pontic Steppe and Volga Ural to de jure Russian Empire lands.
So Empire of Rus is the de jure empire that covers the Russian area and is the equivalent of the Rurikovich supremacy over the Russian principalities while the Russian Empire is created by decision and is more like Ivan the Terrible’s (increasingly) centralised realm?
In a way, yes. Plus the Russian Empire makes it easier to upgrade tribes to castles, presumably to reflect the real-world eastward spread of the Russian Empire. It's a bit ahistorical since it vastly predates the real rise and spread of the Russian Empire, but that is intentional per the patch notes.
Formally - yes. But the point is that Ivan IV was Rurikid too. And he saw territoris of current e_Rus as his own, but occupied by neibours. And it was the most usual casus belli for starting any war againce Lithuania or Poland.
At the same time, Kazan or Astrakhan were not ment as own old territories - it was just new conquired land.
Yeah, I wrote a full guide on it here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1701396096
Perfect- that's what I thought. Effectively it turns Rus + Pontic Steppe + Vulga Ural into "Russia".