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Playing as Portugal, I've orchastrated brutal native repression and, in some cases, genocide - particularly on the African continent. Not the tactic I would have preferred, but one I was cornered into by the game's programming. For example, Portugal starts with some minor (and relatively worthless) trading posts on the Western Coast of Africa. At some point, unless preemptive steps are taken, the natives in those TPs will rise and kill-off your traders. The cost isn't unbearable, until the same thing happens in some of your native-inhabited colonies. Wanting to expand to Asia, I set up a colony in Kenya, which was inhabited by moderately aggressive natives. Within five years of establishing this vital colony (and its port), the natives slaughtered the citizenry.

Would it have been preferrable to colonize an uninhabitted territory? Should I have pre-emptively slaughtered the natives? Or do I have to keep troops in all colonized territories until they become cities? If troops prevent uprizings, what proportion to the natives should my "occupational forces" be? Will 2000 troops prevent an uprising in a territory with 10000 natives?

Perhaps in the next version, the programmers can have an native tolerance slide, or something similar, to reflect your countries policies toward colonized natives.
 

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Well... I tend to follow this rules.
Whenever the natives have an agression rate of over 4, I slaughter them. Otherwise I go happy colonizing. If they do rise, I slaughter them nevertheless.
 
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Aggressive Africans will kill you whether you're tolerant of them or not. It's hard to show tolerance to people who want to slaughter all foreigners, except by allowing them to kill you without fighting back :D

Any natives which are "very low" aggression will almost certainly not revolt. "Low" and you have a fair chance of getting away with it. "Medium" or higher - forget it. Kill the buggers.
 

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That's what I was afraid of. So, any ideas on how large occupational forces should be in colonies. I'm trying to turn one of my African coloniies into a city. Will I need to retain the occupational forces there even after the natives have been incorporated into the city. In other words, when does the native uprising threat end?

Don't say: "when you slaughter them." :p
 

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After the colony has become a city and the natives are in the population they won't revolt anymore. Make sure the forces you station in a province during colony build-up are not too big so that they don't entirely slaughter the natives. YOur city will be bigger if you keep some... If they continue to be a threat, just kill'em
 
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Originally posted by VultureGFF
After the colony has become a city and the natives are in the population they won't revolt anymore.

Which happens when your settlers' population reaches 601. Since Africa has negative growth, this will take seven settlers, but the first one could just be a trading post, which saves a bit of money.
 

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Well in America I usually do it with about 3k cav. In Africa i use 5k, while in Indochine I use more since the natives there tend to get sore once you disembark on their soil
 
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Trial and error, I'm afraid. It varies depending on what your tech levels are, what your country's basic stats are, and don't put a leader/conquistador in there because he'll wipe them out completely in no time.
 

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Sldughtering Natives

As a game tactic I follow the example of the ancient Hittites. I send an expeditionary force into areas I want to colonize and wipe out the indigenous population. I then build up the area with my own colonists. It appears to me that removing..err uhh..terminating the natives with extreme prejudice, seems to increase the chances of successfully establishing a trading post. I always set up a trading post first prior to attempting to establish a colony
 

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Yes and some nations seem to have higher chance of colonization in certain areas then others. Portugal colonizes well in Brazil without slaughtering natives. Same goes in India. Spain does well in the Caribbean, Mid America and Inca neighbourhood. England & France do well in North America, England does best. Netherlands are cool in India. I nearly always succeed in establishing Dutch cities all over India without slaughtering natives.... Cities of 15000 inhabitants are COOL... especially in a chinaware or spice producing province :)
 

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Yes, but I think that has to do with where the AI countries will send their colonists to... Not with the chance of colonization, I THINK