Size of the college of Cardinals

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Size_of_the_College_of_Cardinals

From the 13th to 15th centuries, the size of the College of Cardinals never exceeded thirty

Pope Sixtus V (1585—1590) limited the College to seventy members in his December 3, 1587 papal bull, Postquam verus ille, which lasted until Pope John XXIII (1958—1963), who increased the number of cardinals in successive consistories to seventy-five (1958), eighty-eight (1960), and ninety (1962).

So, i ask, why there is only 15 cardinals for holy see???

What do you think>?

 

[sprites]

15 is fine , there were only 7 upwards to IN.

 

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Well... but this does not mean it is right.

 

[safferli]

"never exceeded thirty" does encompass 15

That said, this is most probably another reason of gamebalance and ease-of-play trumping history.

 

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Well, maybe let's just consider them as 15 cardinals closest to the pope, you mean? XD

 

[Ruanek]

The number itself really doesn't matter a huge amount, and 15 is a manageable number that fits well with the interface.

 

[Emperor Hans]

You just want to have 30 cardinals for that infamy burn

 

[xXAJBoomXx]

15 of the most influential cardinals I'd take it. Secondly, for the time period the game goes through it really doesn't need more than 15 for game-balancing reasons.

 

[ind2bc]

I liked it when you could bribe the cardinals

 

[Ruanek]

How do you bribe them?

In IN you could pay them a certain amount of money (I don't remember how much) and they'd switch their support to you.

 

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You just want to have 30 cardinals for that infamy burn

infamy burn from cardinals is too high already-i would prefer a system of -1 BB pa for the curia controller only, to encourage switching to protestant/reformed, which i never do because of the cardinal burn rate for catholics.

 

[PiriReis]

In IN you could pay them a certain amount of money (I don't remember how much) and they'd switch their support to you.

Why cant you do that anymore in DW 5.1?

 

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Why cant you do that anymore in DW 5.1?

Probably because the rich countries just spamming bribes to the cardinals for the infamy burn.

 

[ind2bc]

but i only ever had like 10% chance of getting them because of my infamy

 

[Arondeus]

Quick question: Why is it that I have attained 80-100 influence with the Pope but never manage more than one or two cardinals at a time, usually none? Is it tied to Prestige also? If so, that might be the key. I'm playing as Scotland, it's only 1420-1430 and my Prestige finally just reached 0 last night.

 

[Gpeterse]

Because it's a game and concessions need to be made to game balance and management over historical accuracy.

 

[ind2bc]

Quick question: Why is it that I have attained 80-100 influence with the Pope but never manage more than one or two cardinals at a time, usually none? Is it tied to Prestige also? If so, that might be the key. I'm playing as Scotland, it's only 1420-1430 and my Prestige finally just reached 0 last night.

its because every time you do get a cardinal you lose influence and also it is based on how many catholic provinces you have based on tax i think we agreed on and scotland isn't very big

 

[Duc d'Orleans]

You can still mod it to whatever you want, I've modded mine (at one point, not currently) to 50 just for the heck of it.