Single ethic pop opinion towards Slavery/Purging

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Apologies if this has been asked already, but I'm curious how this new single-pop mechanic will work when it comes to pop opinion towards policies, in particular Slavery and Purging.

In the current game, the only way you can have a Slave/Purging empire is if you pick either Xenophobe or Collectivist, in which pops that have those same ethics won't find a problem with you doing that. Pops that have the opposite traits are strongly against such actions, but at the same time, pops that have no related traits are moderately against it. You have to *hate* aliens to be OK with slaving or purging them.

I find it a bit confusing how this will work in the new system. If I choose a Fanatic Militarist/Xenophobe, which to me is a model of an early expanding Rome (although a pick in the Authoritarian wouldn't hurt), I expect *all* of my (at least initial) people to be OK with me enslaving newly conquered aliens.
However, if I understand the new mechanic correctly, 2/3 of my pops would me militaristic, while 1/3 would be xenophobic. Wouldn't this make 2/3 of them against slavery? This is how it would work in the old system and it would be a very poor model - the militaristic population still holds xenophobic tendencies. You'd also have to pick Fanatic Xenophobe + Authoritarian to have a working slavery system, which kinda sucks as you cannot specify in other ethos.
If instead it's only the Egalitarian and Xenophile pops that are against (alien) slavery/purging, wouldn't that be a poor model for those empires that have neither ethos? For example, it would mean that in societies like Spiritual/Pacifist people would still be OK with slavery and purging.

The new system changes the way I look at population. I used to look at population as distinct groups (e.g. these 1billion people are mostly X/Y), but now I consider them as population statistics (1/10 pop are xenophobe: 10% of your population is xenophobic), and I think that introduces quite a bit of confusion.
 
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We have little to no information on this, but given what we've been told and the mechanical changes we've been shown, we can presume that POP-level effects (such as unhappiness towards slavery) will have been significantly changed. Unhappiness towards slavery may now be more of a Faction thing.
 

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Well, we really have very little information - but as I see it, you are most probably right

The only alternative I could see -
All this effects now count not per pop, but per planet. So, if you have 10 хenophobe pops and 2 pacifist - than ALL pops on planet will have a little happiness malus if there is a war, and a huge malus if any xeno scum try to settle here.

While I`m very much for future faction change in 1.5 - this make me a bit sad
I prefer to have 14 millitarist/individualist pops (so, I basically have nation of militant abolitionists ), than 7militarist, 7 individualst ( so, half of them don`t care for slavary, and other half don`t care for anything but slavery)
 

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Unhappiness from policies will be gone on a per Pop basis, instead the new faction System determines how happy a Pop is, by modifying the base happiness before any other Things apply. Watch the extraterrestrial thursday stream with the full Information here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/119136373
 
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