Siege Defenders

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In every siege you most likely will see either a count or local baron/mayor/priest of that holding picture right under the leader of the sieges picture.

Does anybody know if that person defending the holding gives any defensive bonuses at all?

P.S. - How is Siege Master not a Military trait yet?

 

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Bump

Come on nobody knows this answer?

 

[riknap]

looking/hovering over the siege progress seems to indicate that it likely isn't

besides, it's only been 8 hours since you posted, so unless you really need to know urgently, waiting at least a day to bump something is more sensible.

 

[Emperor Leo]

I've wondered this too. It'd be a nice addition if a land owner or some sort of temporary castellan (if the ruler was unavailable) added their martial skill to the defense of the castle.

 

[Westernesse]

I wonder if the siege defender loses the prestige if the castle falls?

 

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I haven't paid a lot of attention but I would like it if at least some of the time the Defender was the wife of the landowner.

 

[riknap]

I haven't paid a lot of attention but I would like it if at least some of the time the Defender was the wife of the landowner.

that was how it was in Sengoku though, so it might be possible if the devs export several functions

 

[cywang86]

The defender feels like pretty random. I've seen my ruler suddenly shows up on a castle being sieged by rebels.

But yes, defenders do provide added bonuses. Assaults will take longer and lose more troops, siege events that benefit defenders will pop up more often, and it still has no effect on prestige for the attacker or defender.
If you go to siege_events.txt, you'll notice that the triggers for defenders don't have any requirement, except for having 9 soldiers, but meeting certain trait or martial increase/reduce that 1 month MTTH.

It does seem that defenders show up way more often than 1.07 though.

 

[The_Blind_One]

defenders are important for determining siege events.

Better defenders will give you better siege events. Usualy it will pick a local ruler but if it is your personal demesne and you have not called your leader into direct command he will be transferred to the first personal holding that is under siege and stay there till it is finished. Which is a real pain in the ass if you ask me.

Oh and btw, unit type modifiers still work in sieges, although combat tactics do not. (noticed when I had raised their morale and attack by 10x, and almost none of my soldiers died when assaulting even when on almost even odds)

 

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Thank you guys for all the tips, I'm surprised at no point Paradox has covered this. Defender's of sieges giving benefits, or more likely to get good defensive events when you have a defender.