Sick of the HRE?

[stormblind]

I know I was. I thought the game would be more entertaining sans any empires. So by going into the history->titles folders in the CK2 steam folders, I was able to remove all of the e_ files. I.e. HRE, Byzantines, Timurids, Seljuks, etc.

It's made for a significantly more interesting game while being very easy to restore!

 

[Lord Finnish]

Only the HRE bugs me really. It's ridiculous how easily they can get to absolute crown authority just because they are elective.

 

[Wallain]

Only the HRE bugs me really. It's ridiculous how easily they can get to absolute crown authority just because they are elective.

High CA is too easy to get in general I think, and too simplified. Need some more empire-building mechanics as far as I am concerned.

On topic: Yes, it makes for a fun experience. You can also delete the k_persia, k_egypt and k_france files to avoid über blobbing by those.

 

[stormblind]

Only the HRE bugs me really. It's ridiculous how easily they can get to absolute crown authority just because they are elective.

Oddly, removing the Byzantines as a cohesive empire actually does *ALOT* to keep the greek orthodoxy together as the various muslims can't invade the duchy's, only holy war them, which gets the other greeks in on it; and also prevents the losses from being huge if the war is lost as it's only a duchy vs a kingdom.

Biggest problem I've run into with it is that it makes the Romuva and the Suomonesko's super super strong as they can conquest conquer everything while the christians are stuck holy warring, which gets the holy war defense mob going.

 

[The_Blind_One]

HRE should really drop a level in crown authority whenever a new emperor is elected who is NOT of the same dynasty as the previous emperor.

The electors had a fancy for electing whichever emperor who was least capable or ambitious and least interested in messing with their personal affairs.

Whenever they elected a new king/emperor, it was usualy to the benefit of the lower nobility and many of emperor had to bribe their way in by granting favors and exemptions from imperial rule to the electors. Often just crippling any further potential for centralised authority and control.

 

[Arko]

Only the HRE bugs me really. It's ridiculous how easily they can get to absolute crown authority just because they are elective.

and overall absolute cA is supposed to be the opposite of elective.

 

[Gunnarr]

I just hate when the HRE takes all of Africa for no reason

 

[bmullins0118]

I just hate when the HRE takes all of Africa for no reason

To me, it's they take Africa, then Africa begins to take HRE for itself.

 

[Kaiser Ludwig]

I just hate when the HRE takes all of Africa for no reason

Well, they're infidels... that's a reason.
And "weak" infidels, that's a bigger reason

 

[Hackworthy]

I've never really had any issues with the HRE. They're usually my allies.

 

[Gunnarr]

Well, they're infidels... that's a reason.
And "weak" infidels, that's a bigger reason

They did not take it historically, yet in many of my games they are. It is just silly when they take Mali

(in one of my games they even moved the capital of the HRE to the sahara...)

 

[A_Dane]

IMO the only real problem is the HRE.. The byzantines crumble in most of my games because of OP fatimids

Right now, I think the DLC I want to see the most, is a HRE and or generic empire DLC, dealing with the way the HRE is represented.

It just feels too much like any other state in the game.

 

[unmerged(47028)]

and overall absolute cA is supposed to be the opposite of elective.

Actually I think CA should have some prerequisites, like not being elective monarchy.

 

[hannibal_barca]

Paradox games just cannot simulate logistics/supply the right way. Sending 50k medieval soliders to north african and atlas mountains and moving them around assaulting towns in matters of weeks is just not feasible back then. There are no similuation of wagon trains slowing down the armies, weather, or adquete simulation of terrain. 20K european knights cannot survive in a desert for weeks

 

[bmullins0118]

Paradox games just cannot simulate logistics/supply the right way. Sending 50k medieval soliders to north african and atlas mountains and moving them around assaulting towns in matters of weeks is just not feasible back then. There are no similuation of wagon trains slowing down the armies, weather, or adquete simulation of terrain. 20K european knights cannot survive in a desert for weeks

Not to mention that boats move faster in this game than in Victoria 2 (?????!?)

 

[unmerged(7537)]

Paradox games just cannot simulate logistics/supply the right way. Sending 50k medieval soliders to north african and atlas mountains and moving them around assaulting towns in matters of weeks is just not feasible back then. There are no similuation of wagon trains slowing down the armies, weather, or adquete simulation of terrain. 20K european knights cannot survive in a desert for weeks

This can be solved easily by just decreasing the ridiculous supply limits for provinces (especially desert and mountain provinces).

 

[AJ2009]

IMO the only real problem is the HRE.. The byzantines crumble in most of my games because of OP fatimids

Right now, I think the DLC I want to see the most, is a HRE and or generic empire DLC, dealing with the way the HRE is represented.

It just feels too much like any other state in the game.

I totally agree the HRE is a massive boring grey blob in the middle of the map which needs to be brought to life. I think if the Pope was more able to interfere in HRE affairs and internal ruptures were more common then it would be more fun. A HRE DLC would be great!

 

[Sn3ipen]

Agreed. It should be harder for a big blobbing emperor to have absolute crown authority. Like he ever had such authorities.

 

[yezhanquan]

I don't know if it's been mentioned before, but the reign of the Emperors are very wrong, in terms of duration and start/end times.

 

[Kaiser Ludwig]

I think a lot of the issues with the HRE and its historical weakness aren't properly modeled in game due to the lack of depth with the Papacy. When the Catholic DLC comes out we shall see what we shall see, but it's likely to improve the weakness of the HRE... and maybe other Catholic Empires as well.