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Starting a independence war will result in a stab hit (at least in the case of a PU). The stab hit of breaking truce, starting a war with mil. access, having a RM, ... is always show. The stab hit for the independence war isnt shown.
 
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the stab hit has nothing to do with the independence war itself.rather the fact that you now have a new ruler.

For independence from PU, this is correct. Other independence wars do have a stabhit associated with independence itself, but the game also shows that on the DoW screen.
 

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the stab hit has nothing to do with the independence war itself.rather the fact that you now have a new ruler.

Which wont happens if their is no independence war. So the stab is has something to do with the independence war.
And new ruler wont result in a stab hit, unless he is a general. You cant even make your ruler in a general as minor.