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[Shelltoe]

zed be sure to know i luv you .... but plz explain:

whats differnt with our games? the right one is obviously brighter than the diffuse isn't it. (used no _s so this won't brighten)

(i actually downloaded csl + your sample at work to do this screen should i do another one with colors?)

 

[Zed68]

This part is white in the diffuse map, not black.


So obviously if you multiply it with some grey it will get a bit darker.

 

[Shelltoe]

not it's not? it's grey? i changed it so you can see it ....

left = _d (it's grey not white at all!!)
right = _d + white color variation
middle = _d + grey color variation (obiously a bit darker than 50% hard to tell ingame)

_c = your sample _s

 

[Zed68]

The pic you show on the left is darker than my _d, my _d was completely white and black, no grey at all, but this changes nothing.

YES the pic to the right is brighter than the pic in the middle BECAUSE THOSE PARTS ARE NOT BLACK so they will go darker when you apply a color change...

I don't understand what you're trying to prove !!!!!!

 

[Shelltoe]

i changed it so you can see it ....

my Point is the right pic is brighter than MY diffus shown on the left which won't happen with multiplied colors.

and im not trying to prove anything... i'll be quiet now.

 

[Zed68]

my Point is the right pic is brighter than MY diffus shown on the left which won't happen with multiplied colors.

Huh ???

At first you were telling the game was making black lighter when applying a white color variation... (which isn't happening at all).

Now you say that multiplying white with a darker color shouldn't make things darker... man this is exactly what happens when you multiply.
On your example you are not making the right pic clearer, you are makin the middle one darker.

 

[Shelltoe]

where did i mention black sorry let's just skip this. might be a definition think dunno.

all i wanted to say is: multipied textures can't get brighter ever
which is the case in the screen posted above
so the game doesn't seem to multiply by definition
take it or leave it

 

[Zed68]

not really but you said that the color variations can make things lighter, which is quite close.

 

[Shelltoe]

as shown in my screenshot

 

[Zed68]

Your screenshot shows that it made it darker when you use grey, not that it made it clearer when you use white.

Your screenshot would have been relevant if part of the diffuse was still white, but here we've got nothing to compare the lighter color with.

 

[Shelltoe]

just skip the one in the middle dude

to make it clear: you think the right one is NOT brighter then my texture on the left???? you must be kidding

 

[Zed68]

And you think that the colors or grey shades will appear exactly like they do on a flat texture ?? Not changing with the lightsource position or being or not in the shadows ?

Please...

 

[Shelltoe]

yes exactly this. Minus shadow & ambient of course

EDIT:

Spoiler: was curious

neighter overlay nor multiply seem to be the matching PS equivalent.
it's actually kinda vivid light + multiply!

quick mockup:

actual ingame Color:

sample:
https://1fichier.com/?vbcorsk7z6

Spoiler: Math / CodeSample

Multiply
public static int multiply ( int top, int bottom ) {
  return top * bottom / 0xff;
}



Color Dodge
public static int colorDodge ( int top, int bottom ) {
  if ( top == 0xff ) return 0xff;
  int col = (int) Math.round( ( normalize( bottom ) / ( 1 - normalize( top ) ) ) * 255 );
  return ( col > 0xff ) ? 0xff : col;
}


Vivid Light
public static int vividLight ( int top, int bottom ) {
  if ( top < 128 ) {
  return colorBurn( 2 * top, bottom );
  } else {
  return colorDodge( 2 * ( top - 128 ) , bottom );
  }
}

 

[Zed68]

Who said Blender was not fun...

Well... a different kind of fun

 

[Zed68]

 

[Zed68]

My favorite part of apollo 13

 

[Zed68]

 

[BadPeanut]

finally got the pedestrian paths as close to perfect as i can - some pedestrians still float through because they're 'jumping' between pathways. but i'm happy enough with it. these are just simple meshes i modeled in a few minutes to illustrate the WIP but I have seemed to achieved modularity. hopefully i will be done in a week or so (probably less)

 

[Wastel]

So 1 week for me to grow my city big enough to feed such a nice huge station

 

[Mr Maison]

StephenR, That station is sweet!! Love it!