Shove It Down Your Throats, You Aren't The Fanbase
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Wait you’ve been playing since 2015 and have less than 100 achievements? Lol okay yeah teach me how to play and how you’re so good.
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Bold of you to assume he's/she's using a bong and not just chowing down like it's a bag of chips
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Never did I say I was going to fund them to fix anything. I want to give them money so they don't have to cowtow to DLC hating inbeciles, so Paradox and Johan can do whatever it is they intend with the franchise. Not implement progressively idiotic features like Civ6 has done, that ruined the community and trash mod making. I want most these bugs, especially the tributary development one, to stay in the game. I'm really upset still that Ming->Mughals was removed. Or infinite loans. Or any number of other features. Not bugs, features. Bugs MADE this game good in the first place. Being able to tag swap to some irrelevant nation and gain free cores was the entire first 3 years of playing this game, full stop. Playing Eu4 since day 1 has always MEANT "abusing bugs". That's what EU4 is. That's the game. You people have been rage quitting about DLC and Subscriptions, so let's fix that, and remove both. Like I said, I'd fund Eu4's development for shares in Paradox, and then release every DLC for half the cost so you people can't complain.
How much did Paradox make from this DLC? Half a million? 1, 2, 3 million? Probably not after refunds, and people who didn't buy it. if Paradox sunk 250k-500k developing this expansion, if I gave them 500k, can't they just release the DLC half the cost? Maybe I'm naive with game development, cause it's art at the end of the day and you can't just have people "do art" with more money, but this is generally how amazon, fb, tsla, nflx, sq, or any other major company operates. Tinto is not about EU4. This is about EU4. Tinto is being set up to make Vicky 3 and inevitably Eu5. They will NOT pay attention or put their best effort towards Eu4 anymore. It's over, and it was in 2019 when you could sense the shift coming. Covid sped that timeline up. So let's fund EU4. This is a tiny game, in a tiny sub sphere of this planets economic activity. How much money is needed to half the cost, or even move the cost of DLC? That's the math we need to work out, or this will continue and we will get some True Start Location monstrosity maps like Civ6.
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Most EU4 players do not play Ironman, and the fact you play unmodded proves you don't actually play this game lmao
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Oh god, this is so good. I can't tell if it's a troll, satire, or genuinely a manchild having a breakdown. What's worse, I can't even tell which of the three is funnier. But you best believe, I'm grabbing the popcorn and watching the dumpster fire burn.
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>achievements LOL Ofc that's who complains about this game. Ironbabies. It's always been you, and it will always continue to be your disgusting side of the player base. Mod supremacy or sit down. Really. Dur muh hardcore ironman 35 hour games, save scumming is for novices! People definitely wanna restart campaigns 100 times to get a perfect start date Byzantium, and that experience doesn't become boring after the 50th achievement gotten through a chance personal union. There isn't 1 way to play this game my guy.
Btw my hardest achievement is Spaghetti Western. WC was easy in 2015 after Cossack razing.
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This is the best copypasta material lmao. I appreciate the effort! But IMHO too long
You are not the fanbase of this game, and clearly do not know anything about EU4's development cycles. You can just see all the bull coming from your threads, whining and talking about who the developers are, discussing Johan, and Jake, and Paradox Tinto. "Oh no there is a bug that lets you get 100 development!" Lol. You must be new to this game. Guess none of you have any remotely challenging Ironman achievements. Ming used to form Mughals you absolute blowhard idiots. NO ONE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THAT IN 2015. You could infinite war the ENTIRE WORLD in a loop to break coalition forming. You have always been able to use sneaky tricks to integrate and vassalize, and gain FREE CORES over plenty of land. "OH NO BEIJING HAS 100 DEVELOPMENT!" AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT. 100 DEVELOPMENT? TRY FREE INTEGRATION OF THE ENTIRE INDIAN SUBCONTINENT AND I'LL CALL IT A BUG AND NOT A FEAURE. Apparently this ENTIRE FORUM wasn't around in 2015, so why should the developers listen to you, when you didn't play Cossacks on launch? If you had, you would know about world conquest razing. You don't care we all got the achievements back then, but you care about 100 development MUH IMMERSION IS RUINED? You don't get a voice. You don't know what WE, THE ACTUAL PLAYBASE, THE PEOPLE WHO PLAY THE GAME want.
Johan, Groogy, Jake, Tinto. Do not listen to these absolute fools. They want free content and free development time. Their criticisms are unfounded, unbased, and they are whiny little brats. They didn't play 2013 EU4, and they don't know jack garbage about what "the fanbase" has requested. If they did, they would know Great Buildings project was suggested YEARS AGO when canal projects were implemented, and the modding community wanted to be able to build other things (like Alhambra). Due to limitations this was never possible. We have been mad at Paradox for YEARS OVER THIS, but NOW the fanbase wants to complain? NOW? AFTER WE FINALLY GOT GREAT BUILDINGS, IN ANY BROKEN FORM, NOW IS THE TIME YOU COMPLAIN? When is it good enough? No. You didn't care before, you only selectively care now. "WAHH WAHHH WE FINALLY GOT A FEATURE THAT WE DIDNT HAVE A RIGHT TO IN THE FIRST PLACE AND IT DOESNT HAVE 100000 FLAVOR MISSIONS THAT TAKE 3 HOURS IN A NOTEPAD TO EDIT AND MOD INTO THE GAME MYSLEF BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY GAME ON STEAM THAT JUST LETS YOU GO INTO THE GAME FILES AND CHANGE VALUES AND ADD CODE WAAHHHHH MUH IMMERSION AS A 500 POPULATION POLYNESIAN TRIBE IS BROKEN AHHHHHHHH!!!!"
It has nothing to do with money, or profit, or any of your little conspiracy theories. Tinto began during the peak of covid, and I doubt they have functioned at intended capacity. Besides, there has never in the history of Eu4 not been a major game breaking bug that enables world conquest with a major game update. There simply hasn't, and you thinking there shouldn't BE any bugs that break campaigns is absurd. I have spent the better part of 8 years listening to you fools complain about your broken ironman saves. it's enough. Honestly it takes 10 hours for you to get to 1650 on ironman if you didn't play at a snails pace. "Buh buh buh my perfect Spanish union over France England and Austria by 1498 is broken now!!!! F U PARADIX!!!" Stop playing the game if it's "broken and unplayable". You won't. The player base has gone on full steam for the least 5 years. This game was supposed to be dead by 2016. No one was supposed to be playing this thing still. Jesus Christ. Nut up, or shut up. Really, it's time you paper handers stay out. This is a game for autism, not your little bug perfect clean masterpiece. This is a constant work in progress, and bugs are THE REASON THIS GAME IS FUN. Johan, if you read this, for the love of GOD do not let EU4 become what CIV, AOE, and other communities became. Stop listening to these people who don't play the game. That's what ruined CIV and turned it into a watered down garbage pale. That's what these people want EU4 to become. Do not listen. YOU KNOW WHAT THIS GAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE.
Downvote the post. You can stay mad about the fact your opinion on what is fun doesn't line up with Johan, Jake, Myself and other actual EU4 enthusiasts. You treat Jake like he isn't you. He is you, ragpile. You have anthropomorphized a guy who used to rant on the forum about achievements like you, without stopping to think why any of this is happening. It's not the game buddy, it's you. It's perspective. Check the hours and respond to my post. Go ahead. If you don't have 500 hours don't even bother thinking your opinion on this game matters. You averaged 62 hours per year. That's what, 5 campaigns? You hardly experience the depth of each update, so why do you think your opinion matters? You didn't build this game. You didn't build this community. You haven't made a single bug fix suggestion. You haven't provided any help to the development team, or added any features yourself. You didn't write a single line of code, you didn't come up with any ideas, you didn't make any mods for the community, you didn't do anything for the progress of this game. You haven't even played 500 hours, and you think because you spent some money that you get to complain about your irrelevant view on if the movie you just paid for was good or not. You haven't been on this journey with Johan and crew for 8 years. Shut up, you aren't Arumba Mr Arm Chair expert. No, you don't know what's best for the game.
Let's get down to brass tacks. Johan, how much per year does Tinto spend on the development of Eu4? I'm not there yet, might take be 5-10 years, but I doubt you are dumping more than 5mn into the budget of these DLCs, right? I'll fund a development team myself. How much would it cost to run a 10 man team for a year? How many people are currently working at Tinto on EU4? Not the other games. But just EU4. Would more budget solve your issues, or was this more a transitional work from home problem? If it's just budget, why? Are you focusing budget towards Vicky and EU5? Is covid causing a slow development pace? Let's talk this out, cause the suits aren't gonna solve this at this rate. The fanbase became whiney, and spoiled. I don't know European tax or salary nonsense since I'm American, but even if you decide to pay some random modders 50-80k usd a year, who would prolly be willing to do it just to pay bills they wouldn't have paid with the job they didn't have otherwise, you are looking at 500-800k in development costs for a 10 man team. I doubt Tinto has more than 10 people doing code work for the game. How much do you need to bankroll a team? I'm dead serious Johan. How much will it cost for a team to spend about a year, even half a year, working on a new expansion for EU4? Let's assume you sell 50,000 copies of the DLC. No way you get full monetization on all 2million players, and your addition of a sub model tells me you aren't selling loads of DLC. If you sell those 50,000 copies, that's half a million. I'll cover the dev cost for priority shares in Paradox Interactive. If Paradox isn't giving you enough money to spend on EU4 (because they want you to focus on Vicky, or other stuff) tell us, and we will front the additional cost. Let's solve this because this reaction to a pretty typical EU4 release is absurd.
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No, you playing modded literally proves you don't actually play this game lol.
1. That doesn't even make sense
2. I highly doubt you have the money to actually be giving away $500k to a $2 billion company, and now I'm suspicious if your age even crosses into the double digits.
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Pretty sure you can still do everything you like by using custom nation bugs. So go create a custom Horde, reform into a theocracy, do the fastest One Faith ever, and leave us alone. Clicking buttons to abuse the exploit should keep you busy for a while. Bonus point if you constantly state and unstate to have the entire World be Trade Companies and to concentrate development in a glorious 5000 dev capital.
this is a funny thread but also lmfao at being on the other side. bootlickers are people who love cops and shit, and not people who like a video game developer. If you're even considering calling the Bad Video Game Folks that you've got bigger problems than a broken dlc my dude.
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Man I love seeing this guy having a breakdown and being destroyed by all side
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>Clicking buttons to abuse the exploit
You've described the gameplay of EU4 more succintly than my rant could have. Yes. This is EU4. Let's make more bugs so we can click them and exploit more cool interactions between lines of code.
Do you people actually hear your own arguments thinking this ISNT about clicking exploit buttons? Or do you think a video game is about a developer adding in Polynesian advisor portraits? Last I checked, one of those isn't gameplay lmao
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