Shouldn't sateliting change the form of Government of the Satelited Country?

[Jolt]

I came to ask because I founded it odd when my Satelite, for whatever reason turned Communist, I declared war on it and re-satelitted it back, thinking it would change Government back to my own (Const. Monarchy).

It is also odd that a Communist Government, after a coup remains as a Satelite of the Mother nation. >_>

 

[unmerged(106891)]

Yeah this seems reasonable. If I remember correctly (it's been quite a while ) but that is what happens in HoI isn't it?? The changing of a satellite to your form of government, I mean. Perhaps this is something that those working with the source code might consider (hint hint! ). I don't really pay much attention to my satellites if I have them, however, I'm just happy they're there!

 

[Jingles]

I would definitely like to see my satelites have the same government type as me, in addition to 50% of their income

 

[jonti-h]

Yeah this seems reasonable. If I remember correctly (it's been quite a while ) but that is what happens in HoI isn't it?? The changing of a satellite to your form of government, I mean. Perhaps this is something that those working with the source code might consider (hint hint! ). I don't really pay much attention to my satellites if I have them, however, I'm just happy they're there!

You do remember correctly, and it does seem reasonable to me - after all you are forcing them to be your puppet.

 

[noddysseus]

Just because a nation becomes a satellite overnight, does not mean the rule of government imposes itself overnight.

 

[jonti-h]

Just because a nation becomes a satellite overnight, does not mean the rule of government imposes itself overnight.

Maybe, but in Vicky it never changes. Some sort of compromise between this and HOI would be good.

 

[unmerged(106891)]

9 times out of 10 (if not more) when a nation becomes a puppet, this is down to regime change within that nation. It is quite rare for, say, a defeated government to keep in power and accept being a puppet regime after losing a war, or whatever. Also, nations granted independence would usualyl be granted this under certain provision that generally complied with the mother nations' political system. These are the general cases, however.

 

[OP13]

Speaking of satellites, is there any way to make them free countries again??

 

[unmerged(106891)]

By breaking the alliance and declaring war, or if they have a revolt which changes their constitution, this will end their satellite status I believe.

 

[jonti-h]

By breaking the alliance and declaring war, or if they have a revolt which changes their constitution, this will end their satellite status I believe.

Yes, unlike EU2 where you can end the vassalage peacefully, you have to DoW on them or wait while they have a revoltuion.

 

[unmerged(106891)]

That is yet another area that could be tweaked by source code developers... perhaps a 'UDI' button for a nation which is a satellite, or a 'grant full independence' button for a satellite/dominion master??

 

[OP13]

That is yet another area that could be tweaked by source code developers... perhaps a 'UDI' button for a nation which is a satellite, or a 'grant full independence' button for a satellite/dominion master??

That would be a good idea, I've never seen a country declare war on his satellite just to make it free. This is really nonsense.

 

[unmerged(106891)]

That would be a good idea, I've never seen a country declare war on his satellite just to make it free. This is really nonsense.

Yes indeed. Surprising this wasn't sorted beforehand... it was always going to be a strange point of the game, especially when taking into account other satellite-releasing systems in other Paradox games.

 

[Jolt]

Yes indeed. Surprising this wasn't sorted beforehand... it was always going to be a strange point of the game, especially when taking into account other satellite-releasing systems in other Paradox games.

Another problem: Is anyone ever saw a AI Satelited Country declare war on it's Master? I never saw it happen, even if you're 200 ranked Saxe-Weimar with the UK and USA has your satelites.

 

[unmerged(106891)]

Hahahaha! :rofl: Great example there!

Yeah I think that is just the AI system really... they take it that they've lost a war already... and they are in a weaker position from being a satellite... so declaring war would not bode well for them - and the AI wants to win (or at least survive!).

 

[SeedSnatcher]

Another problem: Is anyone ever saw a AI Satelited Country declare war on it's Master? I never saw it happen, even if you're 200 ranked Saxe-Weimar with the UK and USA has your satelites.

Well nobody ever said satellited Great Powers would actually want to stay under the thumb of a 200th place German state.

Seriously, though, it rather makes sense, assuming the Brits and the Americans didn't want to be under the thumb of a 200th place German state.