Should I purchase HOI3

[Pioniere]

I have long been a fan of hoi2 series and made world both red, blue and much of the time gray since 2006. I tested hoi3 last year I think it was with the V.1.1 patch but after one gaming year with Germany the was going very slow. Is it my computer of was there some problem with the game. I have read many places the game is broken there is bug here and there. Even so I am tempted by this game. It has a bit to many provinces for my small grays in my very head and I get a bit frustrated sometimes for that.

But shall I buy this game ? the hoi2 vampire think so

 

[Pioniere]

How has the game-play been in patch 1.3??

 

[Kirth Gersen]

1.3 is playable, but frustrating. 1.4, which is out end March, I believe, should help fix the most of the speed issues you mention, and a ton of flaws and bugs. But the betting is that there will still be issues, as Paradox have said they won't be addressing everything.

If you are unsure, I recommend you wait a month, and see what people are saying after the patch.

In the mean-time, given you are a keen HOI2 player, AoD is out 23 Feb. Check out what the forums say when that gets released.

 

[unmerged(29298)]

I have two computers here, with the PC that is a bit old and has an FX5500 the game is unusable. it takes a lot to end the 1st day. and hangs.

with the notebook, that is the las IBM one a T something, runs, slow, really slow but runds, however when war starts in hungs and throws a system error, if i start in 38 I can not use it more than two months, each time each crashes a full installation is required.

I strongly recommend you dont buy it yet, the map engine is much worse than the hoi2 one, takes a lot of time to click each unit, so if you need to reorganize your HQ it will take you an hour easily if don't make any errors at best.

I hate dealys on click becuse it makes you realize that you are not in the war, you are behind a buggy PC.

I had crashes in every screen maybe is my notebook, i also had to instale c++5 last patch to run it.

I will test in my other PC in one month where ia have two processors and last video card, but I am afraid that I will get crashes just faster.

However like with HoI1, in a year when the new generation of PC arrives you will have enough hardware at hand and the bugs will be fixed.

however, now you will just buy depression for your life, its like seeing a great potential demo.

makes me remember the old commodore 64 games, where I awaited a game and it just crashes at start and I can do nothing about it.

 

[unmerged(29298)]

How has the game-play been in patch 1.3??

Terribly slow and buggy in my PCs at least.

 

[charmquark94]

I play on an HP Pavilion dv900 with 4GB RAM, running Windows 7 64 bit with 512MB of discrete VRAM on a mobile NVIDIA card. The windows rating of my box is a fairly average 4.7. With that being said, here is what I note about performance on 1.3:

1) It takes about 2 mins to load the game the first time
2) It takes a lot less time to start the game again, if you have quit the game but not restarted the computer (say 20-30 sec)
3) Game play for me is smooth, and I notice no issues with lag upon clicking units as mentioned above.
4) The game lags, and time seems to slow about 50% during eventuful, conflict filled years.
5) I probably get one random crash per 40 hours of play, but have not come across a game where I can't just fire up the closest auto-save and play through.

So with a fairly new laptop, the game is fine for me.
As far as actual game play, I have personally enjoyed this game more than any other I have gotten in a few years. It is not perfect, and the AI has a lot to be improved. Still, its the first game to me that really feels like playing an old AH game on the computer. With the active community it will only get better, so I am very much enjoying the game already, and each improvement just makes it better. The tutorials suck and crash the game now, so I do recommend finding a good AAR and using that as a guide to a first game.

I would recommend the game, unless you are a bit of a perfectionist that will really be upset by some of the current issues/

 

[Pioniere]

I have a Intel dual core 2CPU, 2,13ghz and 2,93 GB ram. Wonder how that would be on V1.3

 

[Rankorian]

I have a 2 year old desktop. I concur with about 1 crash per 40 hours--just involves going back to the last autosave.

Have had no performance issues: AMD 64 x 2, 3800+ 2 GHz, 2.0 GB Ram. Smooth as silk performance--though I am almost always at the slowest setting.

Despite it quirks, I consider HOI3 brilliant.

Want a possible whacky history? Start at 1936.

Want more realistic history? Start 1939 or later. [This is to answer the compliants on one side or another]

Want human controlled Italy, for example, to be a superpower? Fine. Don't want that to be possible, because it is so ahistorical? Great--crank up the difficulty, or set yourself rules. [ie--don't exploit AI/game weaknesses, or pre-knowledge. For example, can Italy invade successfully Yug early against the AI? Pretend it doesn't matter, and don't do it, because it would have been such a huge risk in real life]

Want more challenge? Never go back to a previous save when something does not work out. It invalidates the FOW and Intelligence element to "try something out," or to neutralize a freak battle. Oh...you want just have a relaxing time, and crush everthing in your wake...then, by all means, try things and go back to previous saves if they do not work.

The supply management? I consider it brilliant, though you will hear much moaning in this forum about it. Appropriately boundries the human players capabilities, and the complex interactions with infrastructure and convoys seems generally historical.

The HQs? Again, I like them. Maybe burdensome for the large powers, but the Corps structure seems great for a smaller power. I like fiddling with the OOB--again, there will be significant dissent about that in this forum, but it appears you can ignore the HQs if you wish--making the whole system very flexible.

And the 1.4 patch is likely to make things even better. Yes, there is the superstack issue, and naval warfare needs a CV-sensible redo. Glass 9/10ths full?

 

[petester]

I have a quad core, 4gb, vista 32, integrated video card - GF7100 and HOI3 ran very very slow - almost unplayable. I upgraded to a new video card (Radeon 5750) and it runs like stink - very very fast. No errors / crashing in 1.3 at all for me.

So integrated video card is not recommended unless it is decent. And I take this as proof that HOI3 is graphics intensive - and thus why some people are having speed issues on laptops (a lot of laptops have integrated video cards)

As a quick test, focus on a sea zone and zoom in - if game time speeds up, I would conclude that a good part of a slowdown is a result of a slower graphics card (and not CPU/RAM, etc).

 

[jju_57]

Yes do so.

 

[unmerged(185688)]

As a quick test, focus on a sea zone and zoom in - if game time speeds up, I would conclude that a good part of a slowdown is a result of a slower graphics card (and not CPU/RAM, etc).

Test, lmao, that's part of my normal routine. I set up what needs to be done, focus and zoom in on a sea zone, and let the game run until I need to adjust something or oversee a battle. I really need to upgrade my graphics, Integrated is a poor substitute.

 

[Leckan]

I have long been a fan of hoi2 series and made world both red, blue and much of the time gray since 2006. I tested hoi3 last year I think it was with the V.1.1 patch but after one gaming year with Germany the was going very slow. Is it my computer of was there some problem with the game. I have read many places the game is broken there is bug here and there. Even so I am tempted by this game. It has a bit to many provinces for my small grays in my very head and I get a bit frustrated sometimes for that.

But shall I buy this game ? the hoi2 vampire think so

I got this too and it was a gamebreaker for me, then I realized that if I resigned and reloaded where I just had been the game went a lot smoother, so if you play 1+ hours then reload and it goes as quick as ever again.

 

[General War]

On my 2-3 years old desktop (Intel C2D, 4GB RAM, GeForce 9600) the game runs fine, without crashes. I had some problems with the old ATI card though.

1.3 much improved both gameplay and performance, hopefully 1.4 will be even better. I say go for it.

 

[unmerged(165331)]

Yeah, seems that having at least a dual core CPU and 2 Gigs of Ram is base for this game.

After that, we are all probably running this baby on highest possible resolutions (1900x1200 for me) and that IS 2D graphics intensive, even if it is not strictly a pure "frames per second" issue.
Discrete graphics memory is key here. Sharing the RAM on your motherboard with an integrated CPU is death.

 

[safferli]

I have a Intel dual core 2CPU, 2,13ghz and 2,93 GB ram. Wonder how that would be on V1.3

The main problem is your graphics card. Have you got a decent graphics card? And with graphics card, I mean a graphics card, with dedicated RAM (at least 512mb, better 1gb).

And, yes, HoI3 is worth it. With 1.3 it's a good game (not a great game). HoI2D:A is more polished, yes. But only with the community patch. I assume with 1.4 HoI3 will be a very good and solid game. The first or second expansion pack will polish the remaining problems.

 

[Jos de trol]

I'd simply wait until the patch actually comes out, at least in its beta form; can't do any harm there and might save you from disappointment at the current state of the game

I myself have been trying to not spoil my gaming experience by only test playing until we get a patch that finally maximizes the game's potential until the expansion

 

[unmerged(162528)]

This game has a huge potential, but yet still impotent

 

[unmerged(65973)]

Ha ha expansion. Another way for paradox to "expand" their bank account by releasing this broken pile of rubbish. Then your butt will belong to that Gamersgate crapware site where they will add drm to your game to add insult to injury.

 

[ulrichomega]

Ha ha expansion. Another way for paradox to "expand" their bank account by releasing this broken pile of rubbish. Then your butt will belong to that Gamersgate crapware site where they will add drm to your game to add insult to injury.

Oh look. A discontent. What ever will we do?

Paradox is a small company. As such, they are usually unable to adequately test their games before release. Because of this, their release games are often buggy. However, following an expansion pack, their games come into their own, and are often good games. Following another expansion pack, their games are extremely good games. If they are lucky to get a third (I'm looking at you HTTT) the games become masterpieces.

They aren't expensive. They're, what, twenty, thirty bucks? Be happy that Paradox actually stays behind their games years after release and doesn't immediately drop them for the latest and greatest.

 

[unmerged(29298)]

yes, it would be sad having Paradox disappear. Make numbers.. 10 developers x 6000 euros, how many games do you need to sell???