The early game is great fun but the mid game is still a bit boring imo. Pretty sure 1.5 will massively improve the game though so give it a week or 2 to see how banks and utopia are received.
Should i buy Stellaris?
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My personal opinion is yes buy it. With the new update due out this week, you might as well wait and see the reactions from that first, since you've already waited this long.
As I am sure this has been echoed many times, this space jockey has the right of it. As is Stellaris is a great game, but does miss a bit of meat in the mid game. I never found it so personally, maybe it is just my own play style, but I never had a shortage of things to do or worry about. But if you are teetering on it right now, wait for the big big update. If that cash is burning a hole in your wallet, check out the Utopia Dev diaries to get a taste for what is coming.
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Stellaris is my favourite Paradox game with CK2. I personally feel that the game is somewhat closer to EUIV and the two Vickys than CK2, but it has a really huge potential, especially if it's improved with much content like CK2 and EUIV.
Utopia will be available in a few days, and for what I've seen in the devs diaries, internal politics will be really improved and in my opinion, this is a very good step in making Stellaris even better.
Utopia will be available in a few days, and for what I've seen in the devs diaries, internal politics will be really improved and in my opinion, this is a very good step in making Stellaris even better.
There's a sale on now on the paradox store, not quite 50% off but nearly. Probably not worth playing until 1.5 hits though as otherwise you'll start learning then have to re-learn as some fairly major changes are being implemented.
Well since there is a 40% discount right now i would say that you should grab it and play when 1.5 hits.
One of the best things for me in Stellaris is the ability to mod the hell out of it
One of the best things for me in Stellaris is the ability to mod the hell out of it
I really enjoy Stellaris and it just keeps me engaged.
That said, sometimes in vanilla you have some rather dull games where the AI doesn't bother you much you are kind of hemmed in and opt for a small nation and a tech building strategy only to find that there is not a lot to do.
All this 'should' change with the next come update when you can be small and still have lots of engaging things to do.
The best games I find are the ones when there are some blocks of AI that want you as their new home and that at a stage in the game you are challenge by their relative power and have to pull out all the stocks to get ahead.
A friend of mine who I assumed would love Stellaris disliked techs. He felt that a new tech didn't feel like it produced enough impact. Especially weapons. He also felt the middle to late game was a bit dull. I hope he revisits Banks and Utopia.
That said, sometimes in vanilla you have some rather dull games where the AI doesn't bother you much you are kind of hemmed in and opt for a small nation and a tech building strategy only to find that there is not a lot to do.
All this 'should' change with the next come update when you can be small and still have lots of engaging things to do.
The best games I find are the ones when there are some blocks of AI that want you as their new home and that at a stage in the game you are challenge by their relative power and have to pull out all the stocks to get ahead.
A friend of mine who I assumed would love Stellaris disliked techs. He felt that a new tech didn't feel like it produced enough impact. Especially weapons. He also felt the middle to late game was a bit dull. I hope he revisits Banks and Utopia.
Wait for a sale, It's an okay game, but it's getting better as more updates release.
The early game is, as I have read in many reviews and come to agree, the best part. Starting from one planet with only a couple ships you're alone in the universe and can explore to your heart's content. You wonder what is beyond the grey haze at your borders, and there is a pioneering spirit as you expand your first colonies. First contact will enevitably be made, bringing the question of how to interact with them. You might discover space borne aliens, uncover mysterious alien relics, or encounter beings and civilizations far more powerful than you. On your planets you manage your pops and tiles, lining up adjacency bonuses, yield bonuses, and pop workers just right for maximum productivity. This is the best part due to the sense of player involvement and wonder.
The mid game, which I would define as beginning once you establish your first sector after you've gone over your core limit, is where things get less interesting. By that point all your core planets will be filled with pops each of whom will be working a tile. Other than occasionally going back to them for upgrades once they become available tile management is over, since you can't manage planets in sectors. In addition, the exploration phase will be over, as by then you will probably have met all your neighbors and started receiving contact reports from civilizations all over the galaxy. Believe me, it is far less interesting to find the 20th civilization on the other side of the map because they were listening in on your communications than meeting your first neighbor because your science ship wandered into their territory. In addition, you will find little else to do than war. Economic development and territorial expansion primarily serves to give you more resources for bigger fleets. Research is done primarily to upgrade weapons or increase the strength of your leadership , government, or economy for even better warfaring. The victory conditions for the game, involving either you being the last one standing or you or your federation controlling a certain percentage of planets, all revolve around war to some extent. .
The late game comes in 3 flavors:
1. A Fallen Empire (FE) Awakens due to an empire growing in strength or provocation and attempts to turn other empires into its subjects.
2. An FE awakens due to a certain empire growing in strength or provoking it and they wage a war against another FE, forcing other empires to sign up with either side, stay neutral, or join a month-aligned third faction.
3. An endgame crisis, wherein a super powerful threat emerges to destroy the galaxy. 2 of them are caused by dangerous techs, while the third has a chance to happen starting from 170 years after the start of the game. FEs will try to help out the galaxy.
The best way I can out it is that the early game is Star Trek, mid and late game is Star Wars. Either way, the midgame and endgame is a wargame. Stellaris overall is about war, which isn't a problem on its own, but for now warfare is simplistic and revolves around doomstacking. While stellaris is by no means a bad game, to be honest I wish I had bought EUIV instead. In addition, it's worth noting that we only have one major expansion (Utopia) and that it could likely take several more before Stellaris reaches CK2 levels of refinement. I'm sad to say you might have to wait another few years, or just wait for a sale or gift card to come along if you really need to experience it.