Should an invasion of the US be very difficult to outright impossible in HOI4?
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I wonder if the Yanks in this thread can understand the levels of derision we have for them is the same levels the yanks have for the insert developer of OP mod for country X.
I don't know where this came from but now it's personal, grandson. Honey! Where's my cane? No not worth it. We won the revolutionary war, civil war, and beat down some other folks over the years. Did I mention the foreigner Hessians yet? Go ahead just try and take my land!
Until this post I was willing to concede there was a path to a successful invasion taking full alternate reality liberties with a uber successful axis but now I know people are still people, even if they are virtual nonentities on my computer screen. No matter how many twists or turns we throw at this alt reality, the krauts didn't have it in them to capture the USA within the timeframe of the game.
America +5! Germany no game bonus! Final answer
The americans lost the civil war just as much as they won it. Or have you booted the South out yet.
The Russians did the heavy lifting in the war, Its really a moot point whether the nazi's could have invaded america simply because they didn't have the resources to take on russia. The question really should be should germany even have a chance at defeating the soviets.
However this is a game, so if you think that should be in the realm of possibility then you probably think the south could have won the civil war.
The Russians did the heavy lifting in the war, Its really a moot point whether the nazi's could have invaded america simply because they didn't have the resources to take on russia. The question really should be should germany even have a chance at defeating the soviets.
However this is a game, so if you think that should be in the realm of possibility then you probably think the south could have won the civil war.
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We appear to have lost sight of why we are here. Let's get back to discussing the difficulty of invading the USA in HOI4.
The game is a fantasy alternative history strategy game. If you have a problem with Germany invading the US than I hope have a problem with pretty much every alternative country national focus.
Enjoy the game for what it is, cause it sure isn't going to be for its historical accuracy.
Enjoy the game for what it is, cause it sure isn't going to be for its historical accuracy.
Couple things
-if convoys represent transports then the game should require an insane amount to get to USA. Make it a very heavy cost and investment for the player.
To put this in perspective, the Germans didn't have enough shipping and transports to invade the UK in 1940. Think about that...they couldn't even get across the channel. Even if they had stolen Norway's shipping and possibly others, I don't think they'd be close. Such efforts required years of industrial planning, just in terms of hardware and infrastructure (not the actual planning of an invasion). More specific numbers and data are cited in The Last Lion Vol III by Paul Reid and William Manchester.
That being said, it was always assumed that Nazi victory over USSR would allow Germany to build as many ships as they'd need. So sure it should be possible for the player, but it should take TIME.
-In our list of dream features, we can add deeper trade agreements and negotiated peaces. If Germany had won the war quickly (which really means Britain going to the negotiating table after France), and American public support favored peace, FDR would have bought peace imo. Maybe the game is too short for this type of feature. I can imagine it in something like Vicky 2.
-if convoys represent transports then the game should require an insane amount to get to USA. Make it a very heavy cost and investment for the player.
To put this in perspective, the Germans didn't have enough shipping and transports to invade the UK in 1940. Think about that...they couldn't even get across the channel. Even if they had stolen Norway's shipping and possibly others, I don't think they'd be close. Such efforts required years of industrial planning, just in terms of hardware and infrastructure (not the actual planning of an invasion). More specific numbers and data are cited in The Last Lion Vol III by Paul Reid and William Manchester.
That being said, it was always assumed that Nazi victory over USSR would allow Germany to build as many ships as they'd need. So sure it should be possible for the player, but it should take TIME.
-In our list of dream features, we can add deeper trade agreements and negotiated peaces. If Germany had won the war quickly (which really means Britain going to the negotiating table after France), and American public support favored peace, FDR would have bought peace imo. Maybe the game is too short for this type of feature. I can imagine it in something like Vicky 2.
To answer the OP I think it should be possible to invade USA as long as you have air and naval superiority, or have taken Canada or one of the South American countries. I think the historical game ends once you hit that unpause button at the start of the game, no matter how historical you try to play it. Any way if the game was totally historical I for one wouldn't want to play it as it would be boring as F**k.
They also were building an Amerika Bomber, a Die Glocke, and were in league with aliens.
Nice try, if nothing helps discrediting and trolling. I didn´t know that Wernher von Braun talked to aliens.
23 Meters or 75 feet is tiny? The V2 was 14 Meters and had a payload of 738 kg Amatol, that was enough to level an entire block.
The important thing that needs considering is if the rocket could deliver a payload that is roughly 3 meters long. 71 cm in diameter and weights 4400kg.
According to the design specifications it could not.
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