Should Ahistorical nations be added as formable?

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Naturally there should be an Imperium of Man for you to form once you've conquered enough of the world.

This is completely insane idea but I love it :0

Kurdistan

Ardalan and Bohtan are historical Kurdish tags both existing in game. Well, they also sound more sexy than modern 'ethnic-stan'


North-Sea-Empire: England+Denmark+Norway

Actually I like this idea because
a) It had some base in reality, medieval personal union
b) It sounds cool
c) It would offer new fascinating gameplay for human (well I can't imagine AI forming it, although I have seen GB conquering Norway so...)


Nordic Empire: NSE+Sweden+Balitkum+Netherlands,+Northgermany

Not sure about this. I mean, what these counries have in common? 'Germanic languages family' is extremely far - fetched similarity.


Iberia:Spain+Portugal

Spain is a geographically accurate term anyway. As we all know Spain comes from Hispania which did include all of Iberia.



IAnd is there a unification opition for hordes?!!


I think two options would be gold:

1) Restore Mongol Empire

2) Form Yuan
 

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The obvious answer is to RNG the mandatory provinces to form a country, using colonial range to determine max distance the provinces can be from each other. Then we watch as the OCD perfect border people lose their minds.
 

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A Celtic Union nation would be incredible.

Unite Ireland, Wales, Scotland, Cornwall and Britanny to form.

Conquer Galacia, Gaul, Northern Italy, Macedonia, Central Anatolia, Swiss + Austrian territory for achievement.

:ninja: Unite the ancestral lands!
 

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Royal Soviet Union!
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I want a formable Germania.
A union for all germanic peoples. Germany, Austria, Netherlands, Prussia, England, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Iceland and all other.
A huge gray blob with the "G E R M A N I A" letters shown all over Europe. Can you imagine my dream?

Yes. I have played CK2. Your dream is my reality.
 

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Should Paradox add new formable that have some ahistorical basis? Such as France/Spain becoming one country, Byzantium becoming Roman Empire/Republic, a British/French union etc.
*Cough* "Byzantium" is the Roman Empire and it always was, Byzantium was Constantinople's former name, 19th century historian had issues decided that empire that called itself the Roman Empire until the very end and was called the Greek Empire by the West should be called by its capital's former name.

With that logic 24th century historian should rename British Empire to London. To make sure that anybody doesn't confused pre-Glorious Revolution England with post-Glorious Revolution England.
 

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- Two Sicilies would be nice as counterweight to Sardinia-Piedmont.
That. It always confused me when people said: "We don't need Two Sicilies, we have Sicily and Naples" - uh, yeah? That's the point of Two Sicilies? At this point Sicily and Naples - both of them were officially called "Kingdom of Sicily" - have been separate long enough to be considered different entities. That's why the country was called "Kingdom of the Two Sicilies" and not "Kingdom of Siciliy" after (re)unification.

And we could really need some alternate versions of existing countries - an alternate Spain, for example, based on an union between Castille and Portugal instead of the historicak "Iberian Marriage".
 

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Naturally there should be an Imperium of Man for you to form once you've conquered enough of the world.
Yes, I believe that after you take half of the world provinces, you should have the decision for Imperium of Man: resulting in gaining claims on entire planet and formation of world coalition against you. That will be totally awesome like the Real divide from Shogun 2. Imperium of Man vs the rest of the world
 

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France spain no, France-england yesm There's already a roman empire in eu4, it just needs the converter or a mod.

What we really need is more alternate formations, scotland into GB shouldnt just be the same as england into GB, portugal forming spain shouldnt be the same as Aragon and castille, ect
Why should Portugal be able to form Spain? I never get that.
 

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Why should Portugal be able to form Spain? I never get that.

Because it's a logical tag for Portugal to progress to if Portugal unifies Iberia.

This is because Portugal forming Spain almost certainly implies that Castile/Aragon have not formed Spain, meaning that there is no Spain for Portugal to define itself in opposition to. Portugal-formed Spain really needs a flag that doesn't imply a union of Castile, Aragon and Naples, but I'm sure that would be possible for the devs to get around to at some point. Hopefully.
 

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I think it is a silly idea. You have an almost infinite number of ahistorical nations that could be formed, is a waste of time trying to add that many tags to the game.

Adding the ability to customise your country name might be possible, but changing the colour wouldn't since that could easily lead to problems.


but its still the same formable, complete with same flag and color, having different NI's doesnt change that my country of scotland led britain shjouldnt be glorifying the english part so much, ect ect

What exactly in the country colour and flag is glorifying the English?
 

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Because it's a logical tag for Portugal to progress to if Portugal unifies Iberia.

This is because Portugal forming Spain almost certainly implies that Castile/Aragon have not formed Spain, meaning that there is no Spain for Portugal to define itself in opposition to. Portugal-formed Spain really needs a flag that doesn't imply a union of Castile, Aragon and Naples, but I'm sure that would be possible for the devs to get around to at some point. Hopefully.

The problem ingame atm for that is that Portugal->Spain looks exactly the same as Castile-Agaron->Spain (no Naples needed). It's not just the flag, but all of the colours switch.


But yes, more generally to the topic, some plausible alternates would be nice.

Going along the line of 'old empires' to tie back into (legitimacy thing), there should be quite a few that could work around the world (outside of North/south America because that's just weird).