'Shifting' Ethics

[Cagliostro]

So, I am an egalitarian empire, and I have a faction which is also egalitarian. If I 'adopt' the faction, it says I will 'shift my ethics' towards them.

What does this mean, practically speaking? Am I going to become fanatically egalitarian? Will I lose other ethics?

 

[ICBM 16]

Well what are your governing ethics to start with?

As an example, I like to play a Fanatic Materialist, Egalitarian Empire. If I adopt the Egalitarian faction I should shift into a Fanatic Egalitarian, Materialist Empire. It tries to keep the 3 ethics points total if it can from what I understand. Not sure how shifting from say Materialist to Spiritualist might work. Would be interesting to see that shift and if you have a moment of being neither Materialist or Spiritualist. Or if you change from Materialist to Spiritualist immediately.

 

[Fourthspartan56]

If your governing ethics is already egalitarian than by embracing the egalitarian faction you'll become fanatically egalitarian.

 

[Cagliostro]

If your governing ethics is already egalitarian than by embracing the egalitarian faction you'll become fanatically egalitarian.

Will I lose one of my other ethics to compensate?

 

[Ramiel]

Yes, you will lose another ethic. All (non-fallen) empires will always have three points of Ethics now, anything else is a bug. If you have a current fanatic ethos, it will drop to non-fanatic. If the ethos you're embracing is opposite an ethos you currently have, you'll lose the opposite one. Otherwise you lose the ethic with the least amount of ethics attraction in your empire.
I'm 99% certain this is all explained in the tooltip for the Embrace Faction option.

 

[Cagliostro]

Yes, you will lose another ethic. All (non-fallen) empires will always have three points of Ethics now, anything else is a bug. If you have a current fanatic ethos, it will drop to non-fanatic. If the ethos you're embracing is opposite an ethos you currently have, you'll lose the opposite one. Otherwise you lose the ethic with the least amount of ethics attraction in your empire.
I'm 99% certain this is all explained in the tooltip for the Embrace Faction option.

It isn't, unless there's a warning after you click to accept it.

 

[RossMorris]

So I started off with a xenophile, egalitarian and materialistic ethics. However after several negative encounters including humiliation to FE Xenophobes, I'm ready to switch my ethics. So far I've elected a imperialistic party as my president and his faction is growing. I've also switched my Civics from Beacon of Freedom and Idealistic Foundation to Technocracy but no military like Civics are available to me. Will I ever be able to get Militaristic civics?

What else can I do?

 

[Chirs]

So I started off with a xenophile, egalitarian and materialistic ethics. However after several negative encounters including humiliation to FE Xenophobes, I'm ready to switch my ethics. So far I've elected a imperialistic party as my president and his faction is growing. I've also switched my Civics from Beacon of Freedom and Idealistic Foundation to Technocracy but no military like Civics are available to me. Will I ever be able to get Militaristic civics?

What else can I do?

declare war. lots of war. you dont have to do anything, just be at war

 

[Lysenko]

It also helps to have neighbors that hate you and not have neighbors that like you. Getting your planets occupied also helps a lot. That's how I got a militarist faction in my non-militarist empire.

 

[RossMorris]

declare war. lots of war. you dont have to do anything, just be at war

Will that get me military civics?

 

[RossMorris]

It also helps to have neighbors that hate you and not have neighbors that like you. Getting your planets occupied also helps a lot. That's how I got a militarist faction in my non-militarist empire.

I have a military faction, the imperialist faction, unless that's not the same thing,

 

[Chirs]

Will that get me military civics?

I have a military faction, the imperialist faction, unless that's not the same thing,

Yes those are militarists. you have to keep being at war until > 20% of your polulation have this ethis & then you can embrace it

after that you should be able to pick militarist civics. But a word of warning, embracing factions is currently bugged, and the -10% faction happiness thats supposed to be temprary is permanent