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Victory is yours once again. Can anyone stop Milan? Hopefully not!
 

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Hopefully Castille agrees with you on those points. They won't give up land easily- but I suspect you can pry a few provinces from them- but they'll want them back in five years.
 

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What religion/culture are those Mediterranean provinces of Castille?

The possibilty of half-decade wars with Castille seems a much too likely prospect if you take territory off them. The way you have set this up would seem to indicate struggles ahead.
 
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germanpeon said:
My advice would be to either vassalize the Pope or reduce him to just Rome. I prefer the second option because that would teach him more of a lesson, and give you more long-term economic benefits, as well as getting you that much closer to unifying Italy. Allowing Rome to remain in the hands of the Pope indefinitely is acceptable (and realistic) though.

Reducing him to Rome is a nice thought, however he'll need to annex Rome (temporarily) at some point, if he is to unify Italy.
 

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What I meant is that it doesnt seem like its necessary to completely take the Papal States out of the picture, as it remained its own entity for a very long time, and even is today. Unless you meant there is a creation of Italy event which makes your faction become Italy or something. I dont know if that happens or not, but it doesnt seem like it should.
 

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Rensslaer: ...Since Milan had always provided military access to the Pope..there just happened to be a Papal regiment in Modena when we declared ourselves in a state of war alongside Sicily.

could you not have canceled military access to the Pope before the DOW ? ? :rolleyes:

Rensslaer: ...Since we were pretty well overextended in Spain, we didn’t have much in the way of troops at home. We began to draw them from the islands.

i thought that you said that you had already taken all you could afford to take from the islands ? ? :confused:

Rensslaer: ...Finally, Granada falls...

well, something good has happened ! ! :)

i take it that you obtain Gibraltar in the peace settlement ? ? ;)

magnificent updates ! ! :cool:
 

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Rensslaer said:
Everyone wants to hear...

Well, maybe it's that you guys don't know me all that well... Those folks who followed Fire Warms the Northern Lands know that I generally develop war aims fairly early, and go after them with dogged determination.

And I would say what they are....

But I also have this addiction to suspense and cliffhangers, so I'm not always going to tell you what they are, until I achieve them! :D :p

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Yes, Fire Warms demonstrated the highly focused manner in which you fight wars. Eyes on the prize, and all that. ;) But it also taught us that you're a determined and merciless warmonger, eager for conquest! Which I think is great because it makes for good reading. :D

Gibraltar is prime real estate and you should definitely take it if you can pry it loose from Castille.
 

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VILenin said:
Yes, Fire Warms demonstrated the highly focused manner in which you fight wars. Eyes on the prize, and all that. ;) But it also taught us that you're a determined and merciless warmonger, eager for conquest! Which I think is great because it makes for good reading. :D
Oh! What dispicable reputations I get! Undeservedly so! :p

You will recall, my friend, that the only time I declared war upon an "innocent" (if you could call them that!) was when I declared war upon France, early on. Every war since, to my recollection, has either been declared upon me by my nasty neighbors, or by them against my allies, whom I felt obligated to defend!

True, I based my invasion of Tuscany upon a defense of the Pope, and I was not "legally" obligated to come to his aid. But come on.... He's the Pope! And he may even remain the Pope for another decade, still... :D

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Rensslaer: Oh! What despicable reputations I get! Undeservedly so! :p

ya, right ! ! :rolleyes: totally undeserved ! ! NOT ! ! :D
 

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Ok, I'll admit that most of the wars in Fire Warms were started by other people but while you may not have started a lot of fights you always finished them. ;)
 

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down with the pope i should say, apart from that nice war against aragon...

are you planning on liberating navarra again, they kinda deserved it and it does lower your BB :)
 

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DauphineRebs.jpg


Due to the same recruiting programme that has produced enough troops to battle the Papal States, we also have fresh units to fight the rebels in Dauphine from the north, which can be coordinated with the units in the south which were savaged by King Alfons’ early attacks, and are only now recovering.

By the first week of July, these attacks have brought the rebels to surrender. Two regiments are approaching Papal Avignon from the west. Once they’ve had time to recover somewhat, the soldiers in Dauphine will also advance against the Papal enclave.

Meanwhile, King Francesco has left the infantry and artillery in Toledo to maintain security there as he rides south with his cavalry to head off an offensive the Castilians are mounting against Granada.

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He is successful, and quickly rides in pursuit… actually meaning to head around the fleeing Castilians and attack the Emperor’s main port city of Andalucia.

Even as we continued to make inroads against Castille, this matter of the Pope nagged at us.

Gen. Carreto had left the Iberian front to take command of the relief force for Modena. His advance quickly freed that city, and he continued into Romagna.

Having nowhere to run to – the intervening territory belonging to our vassal Tuscany – the Papal soldiers surrendered when they could not stand. That’s 1,000 of the enemy out of the way, relatively bloodlessly. Only 2,000 left.

One army – traveling overland from Calabria – slipped around a new siege in Sicily through Tuscany. It was due to arrive in defenseless Rome in mid-July.

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And the first of our cavalry arrived in Avignon.

Thankfully, the same thing happened as had in Romagna – the enemy faltered, and broke, but had nowhere to run. They surrendered with only 250 men killed on both sides combined! If we were to oppose the Pope, this was the kind of low-intensity combat we wished to have. And we also managed to capt… ask the Pope to stay at our camp as our honoured guest. :D

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And King Francesco’s cavalry bulled into Andalucia, routing a newly formed regiment there.

For all the power of the Castilian throne, you would think it would be more on display!

But I shall not underestimate. They do have teeth, should they choose to deploy them from northern Spain.
 

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Excellent work as ususal. Always love a having a vassal that takes up one third of the Iberian Peninsula! Also, nice buffer for the soon-to-be regular Milanese-Castillian wars. :rolleyes:

Also, congrats on getting past 1,000 replies on the AAR. It may not approach "Fire Warms" yet, (which I read after your reccomendation), but it's certainly a nice start.

Edit: See, there I go and post and your update cuts me off... that'll teach me. Well, great job in southern Spain.... you know, there wouldn't have to be another war if you just vassalized Castille this time 'round :D
 

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ZachMayo said:
Edit: See, there I go and post and your update cuts me off... that'll teach me. Well, great job in southern Spain.... you know, there wouldn't have to be another war if you just vassalized Castille this time 'round :D
Surprising and remarkable things happen between me and Castille... eventually! ;) :D

Thanks for investing the (enormous) time to read Fire Warms! That's my pride and joy, which this one will never approach.

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Rens, do a Handsome Louie! Send a delegation to see the pope, and pretend to be surprised when they kill the evil old git :D
 

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Pope really didn't stand a chance. I wonder why they didn't ally with anyone against you. Stupid thing to attack alone against great power's ally.
 

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Away from the evil Castillian influence, the Pope will soon see reason and perfect his humility. Not to mention, do penance by ceding Avignon and Romagna to you

Murcia and Gibraltar are poised to fall to you and Almeira is not too far behind. I think the only point of interest is just how much of Castille has to fall or besieged before their armies move.