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You've certainly turned the situation around with Tuscany. Again you are relying on the provinces falling before the Venetians manage to break through - again your allies ought to arrive before that happens. Your navy is making a contribution, albeit somewhat pyrrhic.
 

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With your economic position tenuous at best before the war, I'm wondering how long your multi-front campaign (really one campaign and one strategic defense) is feasible... I would have to agree that a prompt peace would be the best peace.
 

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Just read through this whole thing, great stuff. Looks like you're finally putting the Tuscans to bed, how's Burgundy doing? Haven't heard much about them lately. Keep up the good work.
 

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You seem to have things in hand now after a slow start (not surprisinig considering you had to rush to war) with Tuscany clearly getting the stuffing kicked out of it. Just keep Venice tied up for a little longer while you reduce those Tuscan cities and you should find yourself victorious.

And I have to compliment you, the speed of your updating is truly dizzying! Something for all us humble authAARs to aspire towards. ;)
 

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Just read through this AAR, amazing job so far, can't wait to see where you take Milan next (please say HRE throne)
 

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I will go against the commonly-held idea that a quick peace is the best option. Fight for ten years if you must. Sure - that's a risk, but you've got good allies as backup worst comes to worst, and at stakes is the mastery of Italy, which you can easily obtain if you simultaneously (or sequencially) defeat both Tuscany and Venice.
 

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Rensslaer: ...The good news is that every province of Tuscany, other than her capital itself, was under siege by either Milanese or Sicilian regiments. This situation could not sustain itself. Only the success of Venice offers Tuscany hope.

what is the order if you wish to make separate peace ? ?

IIRC, you have to make peace with Venice before you make peace with Tuscany because Venice is the ally brought into the war.

how much help is Brandenburg giving you in this war ? ? i know that Brandenburg would be able to offer much help against Austria, but how close is Brandenburg to Venice ? ? btw, it is really good that Austria is not your ally in this war ! ! :D

how much help is Wurttemburg at this time. do you know how many troops they have ? ? :)

awesome updates ! ! :cool:
 

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Tem_Probe: I will go against the commonly-held idea that a quick peace is the best option. Fight for ten years if you must...

the problem with that option is that your allies have a tendency to peace out on you... usually, they only stay long enough to leave honorably. unless there is something in it for them... :D


of course, if Brandenburg were to obtain a province (or two?) from Venice, then Rensslaer has something to offer in trade ! ! yes, Renss ? ? :D :cool:
 

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You don't even have to win against Venice at this stage - just survive. And Tuscany will fall.
 

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Re Ghostwriter's comment about long wars - that's definitely true about EU2, comments I've seen in the forum suggest that approach may not work so well in EU3. So are you aiming for a long war or a short war and why? (as opposed to what actually happens :D )
 

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ZachMayo said:
Wait... Why would we hope against that. I mean... sure... I'm in Milan's corner... but this is entertainment :rofl:

Gosh, you're right! Rensslaer needs a challenge... like France and Aragon both deciding it's payback-time :D
 

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Eams said:
Gosh, you're right! Rensslaer needs a challenge... like France and Aragon both deciding it's payback-time :D

I'm glad someone agrees with my seasoned perspective ;)

In fact, I think declaring war on both of those half-rate powers immediately would be in order.

[Rensslaer proceeds to thank the Gods that Zach is not his foreign minister]
 

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It seems like Tuscany is having a very had time, so maybe you don’t have to make peace or defeat the Venetians. For now it seems like you are crushing Tuscany and if you continue to concentrate on that you should be able to force both of them into peace. Good work, hope this war works out :)
 

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Sorry it's been a while since I've done feedback, but again I don't have time to do feedback now.

I can leave you with an update, though! :D

Renss
 

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The battle over Ferrara continued in mid-April, 1502. Our defending force was ragged from tough battle. When they were met by a somewhat inferior force of Venetians, they nevertheless felt the challenge.

SaveFarrara.jpg


But for more than two weeks, our forces there hold out. This becomes a timid war of attrition – each side taking minimal casualties.

Meanwhile, the Venetians who had been besieging Mantua head home! I have no idea why, but I’m grateful. Not enough to thank them, but still…

GaveUpMantua.jpg


I did catch a glimpse, also, of Brandenburg’s navy in action! I’ll see if I can tell how well they do.

BrandenburgNavy.jpg


Back in Ferrara, our Milanese soldiers finally turn the tables on the Venetians. After being nearly defeated, they are now hitting back hard. Could they actually pull this into a victory, and retain Ferrara in our hands?

Turnabout2.jpg


By mid-May, we have successfully turned the Venetians back from Ferrara.

In fact, by mid-May the main force of the Venetian army is hanging out in Friuli! Have they decided that since this was not their war, that they will just stay home and not be bothered? Could God so favor us?

Perhaps. After all, we did come to the defense of the Papal States…

A possible confirmation comes just days later…

PeacePope.jpg


I also take note that the territory of the Papal States has all been freed by either Papal or Sicilian troops. Now, Tuscany had controlled those territories…. But if Venice were the alliance leader, then….

Yup. The war with the Papal States is over. Now Tuscany and Venice face us and our allies only.
 

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Good to see that you managed to save the Pope, you did what ever true Catholic should do, also you got to go to war against some evil neighbours so it was a good reason. Maybe the times are turning in this war, it seems like Venice have started to understand that they can’t win and that this isn’t their war to fight. You should use this opportunity and crush Tuscany while the Venetians are resting!
 

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Brandenberg probably has military access through Austria and those Venetians were just returning to face them.

The alliance appears to have Venice as its head. That's good for you can deal with Tuscany and then turn your forces towards Venice. A hard won victory at Ferrara.
 

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Take the war to the walls of Venice!