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The naval losses were hard and not nice, but on land you are doing very well. Capturing all those provinces, good work, you have got a new vassal and I guess now that you have got Barcelona you can make demands for land from Aragon also. Let us hope you can get some of those islands and get more control in the Mediterranean :)
 

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You want it all. Calabria, Sicily, the Balaerics and Sardinia are rightfully yours from the way the fighting of the war has gone. You may need to take Aragon and Valencia provinces to be sure of getting the deal you want.

You've taken 70% of Aragon and that should be hurting Aragon's ability to keep her troops fully supplied. That's good from your point of view. Guzman's good at assaults!
 

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You want it all. Calabria, Sicily, the Balaerics and Sardinia are rightfully yours from the way the fighting of the war has gone.
Seconded! Create a second Italian Empire! Muahahahahaha!

Ahem.
 

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Ahh, a little setback to teach you humility. But only a little one - Aragon is beat.
 

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In keeping with your obvious "Picking fights with my stronger neighbours"-Strategy, I guess next in line is Tuscany together with Austria, then the Ottomans and the HRE in it's entirety.
Good to see the AI behave sensibly and trying to get out of the war, after so many complaint threads about the AI being stubborn.
 

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King Filippo was determined to take the island of Sicily. The Kingdom of Sicily – now based in Naples – had signed a separate peace with Aragon, and so was no longer in any position to demand territory. It was all for Milan, now.

But Aragon refused our first demands – the island of Sicily (both provinces) and the island of Sardinia.

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At the end of December, King Alfons finally forced the surrender of the garrison at Languedoc, thereby reducing the direct pressure upon him to settle. But we still held the upper hand.

And Alfons and his other generals turned to mount a major offensive – to retake Barcelona. Guzman prepared for it.

That’s when an inconceivable strike of good fortune intervened!

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Even as Admiral Bargnani used his one carrack and one cog to rush a regiment of infantry to assist Guzman’s bloodied soldiers, slipping past a blockade without damage, fate intervened in Girona.

A Don de Guirnera rose up with a mass of poorly armed, but determined, rebels – right in the path of King Alfons’ relief march!

Another set of rebels sprung up in Languedoc – the French, attempting to take their land back from the Spanish, who had expressed a desire to keep the province for themselves!

It took Alfons 2 weeks to quell the outbreak at Girona. Surely, that would have sapped his strength and morale somewhat…

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Guzman hopes that the separated arrival times of two large Aragonese armies may present the opportunity to defeat one, first, and then, perhaps, the other. Everything will have to work in our favor, but it is just barely possible.

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Guzman began taking massive casualties when King Alfons attacked, but for some reason his troops morale was sustained, and it looked like he might outlast this first assault.

In the end, it is uncertain what the result would have been. Before either side could claim victory, certain news of a peace arrangement reached the warring parties.

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Historians ever since have argued that a peace at this time was premature. That 1) Guzman would have won the battle against King Alfons at Barcelona, that 2) reinforcements were en route from Sicily, and that 3) now that Alfons had vacated the captured provinces of Languedoc and Roussillon, the army making its way through Avignon would have been successful in retaking those provinces.

However, these arguments ignore the facts that 1) a second, large, army was bearing down on Guzman’s beleaguered forces at Barcelona, that 2) the Aragonese navy maintained a close blockade around those home provinces where reinforcements would be needed, and that 3) for those hypotheticals to come true would take months, and at the end of that time even if everything worked in Milan’s favor, the balance would still probably not be sufficient to convince Alfons to cede Sicily.
 

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Mmm, well that will further consolidate your position int he Med to be sure - and make Aragon more vulnerable next time. Best not to be greedy.
 

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Well, you accepted two province peace after all. Personally I would have continued war further, even to 100% if necessary to get rid of Aragonese presence in Italy for good. Partial peace is only seeds for a future war.
 

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BAH! Now where is that hacking manual. "How to give an enemy 1 million ducats" AAH! That is right. (Innocent whistle) Woops.
 

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A win is still better than nothing. So, let's get on with that war against Tuscany, now you can launch a two front war with Calabria in your possession. BTW, really great you update so frequently, I'm still loving this AAR!
 

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Hmmm, I think ending the war was a good idea. Sure, you MIGHT have been able to get more land, but I've found that EU3 favors short wars for modest gains. Even without considering what was happening with the navy, manpower considerations generally make longer wars less attractive, unless you are being conservative for the first two years, which I think it is safe to you were not being.
 

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Lord E said:
The naval losses were hard and not nice, but on land you are doing very well. Capturing all those provinces, good work, you have got a new vassal and I guess now that you have got Barcelona you can make demands for land from Aragon also. Let us hope you can get some of those islands and get more control in the Mediterranean :)
I got one island, which is not so bad. I'll get the others eventually.

Chief Ragusa said:
You've taken 70% of Aragon and that should be hurting Aragon's ability to keep her troops fully supplied. That's good from your point of view. Guzman's good at assaults!
In the end, Aragon didn't seem to be able to hurt me except with that main army under Alfons. You may be right about me hurting their ability to fight -- that is represented in EU 3, as we saw with my looting of southern France. Guzman is a treasure! I'll be sad when he's gone.

Fulcrumvale said:
Seconded! Create a second Italian Empire! Muahahahahaha! Ahem.
Well, I wouldn't mind creating a REAL Holy Roman Empire -- more like the old one. :D

Duke of Wellington said:
You've come along way since I was last here. Great to see you taking on Aragon. They're a nation I never like. Good luck getting a favourable peace, Sicily would be a nice addition.
Thanks for still following, DoW!

rhynoclemmis said:
In keeping with your obvious "Picking fights with my stronger neighbours"-Strategy, I guess next in line is Tuscany together with Austria, then the Ottomans and the HRE in it's entirety. Good to see the AI behave sensibly and trying to get out of the war, after so many complaint threads about the AI being stubborn.
You may be right about who will be next. Very well may be. ;) But you know you'll never know until I tell you! Gotta keep you guessing. Thanks for keeping up with me!

Duke of Wellington said:
Well a win is a win and your summing up at the end of the update is wise. I don't doubt that Sicily will recognise Milanese rule in due course.
I'm sure as well. Only a matter of a few decades, at the very most! :D

stnylan said:
Mmm, well that will further consolidate your position in the Med to be sure - and make Aragon more vulnerable next time. Best not to be greedy.
I don't wish to overstretch myself, making myself vulnerable. As you know, I'm a gambler... but only so far. I don't recall that I've ever "gone for broke".


Olaus Petrus said:
Well, you accepted two province peace after all. Personally I would have continued war further, even to 100% if necessary to get rid of Aragonese presence in Italy for good. Partial peace is only seeds for a future war.
Yeah, but what's wrong with a future war?! :D I'm also keeping my badboy low enough that I don't get in trouble. With about 2 provinces gained in each war, it's still not been a big deal that I've been at war every 2-3 years.

billy bob said:
BAH! Now where is that hacking manual. "How to give an enemy 1 million ducats" AAH! That is right. (Innocent whistle) Woops.
Now THAT would be a challenge! :eek:

markiep said:
A win is still better than nothing. So, let's get on with that war against Tuscany, now you can launch a two front war with Calabria in your possession. BTW, really great you update so frequently, I'm still loving this AAR!
Glad you like the updates! I hate to lose people, or let anybody fall behind, but I'm adapting slowly to how many years I have to cover, so I'm posting alot more than I would with Victoria. I don't want to let my gameplay get too far ahead of the AAR.

Secret Master said:
Hmmm, I think ending the war was a good idea. Sure, you MIGHT have been able to get more land, but I've found that EU3 favors short wars for modest gains. Even without considering what was happening with the navy, manpower considerations generally make longer wars less attractive, unless you are being conservative for the first two years, which I think it is safe to you were not being.
I think you're right about the game's preference for smaller gains. The AI tends toward that, so even though the little countries of Germany and Italy often disappear, the rest of the balance of power doesn't shift so quickly. I've also played games with countries whose manpower isn't anything like Milan's, and they can quickly run out of men.

Thanks everybody! I'll post another update in a little while. I hope that since these updates don't have alot of text, it'll not be too hard to keep up.

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At the dawn of the 16th Century, King Filippo Maria II’s power spreads over northern Italy, a bit of southern Italy, southern France, some of the islands of the Mediterranean, and a small portion of northern Germany.

In addition, Navarre (on the Atlantic coast between France and Spain) is a vassal, and Sicily, Brandenburg and Wurttemburg are allies. Not a bad power situation!

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While we were busy at war, there was actually some positive action in the field of trading!

We were able to improve the relative situation of our merchants by improving the compete chance. The Shrewd Commerce Practice national idea gives us this necessary boost, which I hope to put into action very soon.

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An event provides us with what is generally a rare opportunity during wartime, when merchants are generally skittish and hard to find.

As was mentioned in an earlier update, we were able to successfully slip 2 merchants into Andalucia, which was at that time a mid-range, “early 400’s” CoT. Interestingly, after the turn of the century, it turned into the top CoT in the world! It was up at about 480 total trade volume – presumably because of overseas acquisitions.

We did lose one merchant shortly after the beginning of the year. But the income from the remaining guy was almost equaling my income from 3 merchants at Liguria!

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In the wake of war, business still remained. Those dogged, doggerel Frenchmen in Languedoc had to be taught a lesson.

General Guzman led 4,000 trained soldiers against their 5,000. Despite their superior morale, the Milanese were having difficulty. Only once more troops arrived, later in the month, did the rebels finally give in.

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Interesting machinations have occurred in the Holy See. Venice – blast them! – were able to bribe Cardinal Paradisi’s loyalty away from us. General Paradisi agreed to plead our case with him, but to no avail.

But at the very end of 1500, Archbishop Containi (a distant relative of the late General Containi) comes into a cardinalship from Bremen. We now have two cardinals who pledge loyalty to Milan, and we could probably get Paradisi back if we made an effort.

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In June, the once mighty and growing German Kingdom of Hesse is humbled.

Brandenburg, our good and faithful ally, grows slightly. Meanwhile, Austria also grows, extending a long, intruding arm into northern Germany. Austria’s whole appearance becomes more snakelike all the time – it sprawls in thin lines across Europe!

I wonder at the military defensibility of such a spread out country, without great defensive depth. But Austria remains one of the foremost military powers of the world. And she is our hostile neighbor.

We will attend to the possibility of future conflict by preparing for the worst. Whether that conflict, or one more of our own choosing, is to come first, we cannot yet say.

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In assessing our economic situation at the end of 1500, we find that we (somehow!) are falling behind many of our potential enemies, and even much of the Musselman world!

This, naturally, is of great concern. What to do? We have been at war, and many of our resources have been channeled into those efforts. Because of that, our technology research has fallen behind many other powers. We have never come into our own in trade, which still puzzles me, but is probably related to trade tech. And we also have not built many of the province improvements that we might have, had we not been spending money on war.

As part of a revitalization effort, we disband all of the mercenaries we have purchased (about 7 regiments) except for the two regiments we are sending back to Bremen. We will need those, until we can build our own units there.
 

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It will, indeed, be the effect of that war. Drains your resources and plays merry hell with the finances.
 

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You should consider going to war with the pope and capture Avignon.. you need to go to war with the pope eventually if you want to unite Italy.

This would give you a land connection to the French provinces (and increased income from them) and the free Tax Assessor in Avignon will lower your 7% inflation..
 

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First of all a question , what is the TE value ? i can't find on the manual :confused: :confused: :confused:

Then i want to congrats for the war against Aragon , i think you did a very good war ;)

Now i think you shuold improve your economy (7% inflation :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: ) and than try to smash the Tuscans from both sides (north and south).

Good Luck and thank you for your quick updates !
 

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Do you actually have the island of Sicily as part of Milan? The screenshots and text did not give a clear indication.

With Alphons of Aragon still in the pictute, it is probably a better idea to leave Avignon under the Papal States, unless Aragon manages to negotiate a military access with the Papal States or Provence.

I see a number of years wherethe priority is the building of province improvements, replacing the older less effective ships by carracks. Sending a spy or two into the Balkans to try to stir up revolts against the Turk might be one way to damage the Ottoman leadership in the economic stakes.

A defensive war with Tuscany which results in their becoming your vassals wouldfit the bill.
 

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stnylan said:
It will, indeed, be the effect of that war. Drains your resources and plays merry hell with the finances.
And I've been at war almost constantly -- takes its toll.

Gyathaar said:
You should consider going to war with the pope and capture Avignon.. you need to go to war with the pope eventually if you want to unite Italy.

This would give you a land connection to the French provinces (and increased income from them) and the free Tax Assessor in Avignon will lower your 7% inflation..
This is a brilliant observation! I would definitely act upon it, except that I'm playing with the persona of a devout Catholic who would not wish to anger the Pope. That's not to say -- as you are about to see in the next update -- that I'm not willing to let the Pope twist in the wind now and again... Just don't want to cross him! Welcome, Gyathaar, and thank you for honoring me with your first post!

Technomucio said:
First of all a question , what is the TE value ? i can't find on the manual :confused: :confused: :confused:
TE is Trade Efficiency. It's roughly calculated with trade tech... I don't have the exact formula here with me. But it can also be modified by a whole set of things, like National Ideas, etc.

Chief Ragusa said:
Do you actually have the island of Sicily as part of Milan? The screenshots and text did not give a clear indication.

I see a number of years wherethe priority is the building of province improvements, replacing the older less effective ships by carracks. Sending a spy or two into the Balkans to try to stir up revolts against the Turk might be one way to damage the Ottoman leadership in the economic stakes.

A defensive war with Tuscany which results in their becoming your vassals wouldfit the bill.
No, we did not successfully get Sicily, even though that was the King's intent. Got Sardinia and Calabria, and called it even.

You think Tuscany should be next, eh? Hmm... Another update in a couple of hours, and we'll see! :D

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