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I'm not the person to ever do a world conquest game myself, so I understand you when it comes to the generous peace offers to Portugal and Austria. Let's get your BB down enough to annex Venice, become Italy and become more powerful then you could ever have been as Milan. Another road would be to betray your long time vassal in a horrible way, but it would work. Of course then you'd have no other choice but to fight BB wars for the rest of the game and go for WC after all.
 

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so the Ottomans are still behind the barrier of the Austrians for another war. Lets hope you can keep those borders from touching.
 

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Presumably the Peace deals are about BB control so you can annex your vassels. The gamey way of doing the BB reduction would be to release a pack of OPM nations so you can DA France/Venice and then when the BB wars kick in for real just annex the minors back and damn the cost :D

This is the tricky phase in BB wars when War Exhaustion becomes a real issue - later you'll be so big and scary that the AI won't DOW anything like as easily.
 

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Rensslaer: ...Milan proposed a peace unlike any she had ever fought with a major enemy power…Finally, peace came to the European mainland. .. And then, things livened up nearer to home, once more… [War(with)Mamluk] .. It was at this time that a peace agreement was made with Portugal.

this is why i asked you the question regarding number of countries you fought in a single war ! ! :wacko:

are not the Mamluks the sixth country you have fought in this war ? ? :rolleyes: ;)

awesome update ! !
:cool:
 

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I guess we shouldn’t be surprised to see Milan at war once again. I was a bit surprised to see the very nice peace you made with Austria, but with the heathens expanding into Europe I think it was a wise move, you should try to keep Austria alive as a buffer zone as long as possible.
The war in the Middle East could have started better, but I think you are going to get the upper hand as soon as you get more forces to the front and then you can soak the sand with the blood of your enemies…
 

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I knew it. I believe you will spend the remaining years of this AAR either at war or recovering from one. Luckily, you are well equipped to handle such a protracted state of warfare. :D
 

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kptb said:
Renss - I made it through the first 106 pages in about two weeks. This is a very bloody game you play.
I will tell you what my thoughts are - in a later response! :rofl:
KPTB! Welcome! Unless you were reading early on, and I've forgotten, in which case it's Welcome Back! In any case, it's great to see you again!

coz1 said:
Caught the last couple of updates, Renss. Nice work with Algiers and dealing Portugal a knockout blow. Austria remains, but it looks to be mostly mopping up than anything else. Seems about time for another power to stand up to you, eh? Which one will it be this time?
Thanks! Another power has arrived...

Chief Ragusa said:
My money's on England!
Close! But....

Mettermrck said:
The sign of a world empire, an increasing reliance on the navy. Mahan would be proud. :) I go away for a month or so and I come back to more incessant war. :D A true conqueror, Ren!
As I may have mentioned elsewhere, I intend to have a decent-sized navy, but not all that large, because I believe I've basically eliminated almost all of the naval powers who might contest me. Nagging hangers-on, aside. I haven't even seen any significant Mamluk naval presence in the last couple of years... I wonder what the Ottomans are hiding under their crescents...

WhisperingDeath said:
It seems to me that it is somewhat out of character for Reformist Milan to seek to reduce tensions with Catholic Europe!? :wacko: I understand a certain solidarity against the Muslim nations but I do have to wonder about the Milanese motivations. As a player I can sympathize with your choice, however I feel that you have crossed the "BB Rubicon" and should embrace your destiny and commit to World Conquest!
Ahh, but I perceive more differences (as you understand) with the Muslims, and a certain common, if divergent, bond with the Catholics, from whose fold I've only recently diverged. We'll see how intently we pursue those conversions over the next century, or so...

dem61s said:
Interesting choices for your peace agreements. Is it possible the Milanese are just trying to keep their reputation clean to get a shot at annexing their vassals?
That's exactly what's going on! :D I may have to do two rounds of this, to keep from having too much Badboy after one round of Diploannexation to do the next one... Unless I could somehow convince them both to Diploannex the same day, in which case they wouldn't know about the other... But the chances of that are astronomical.

JimboIX said:
The Milanese empire is fighting a lot of far-flung wars
We get around!

Enewald said:
never peace... never plus stability... :wacko:
would this be vicky, no one would like to live in your country...

But the mamluks go here again....
Yup. Here we go again! At least I'm alot more interested, long-term, in this war than in the other intra-European ones!

Terraferma said:
You said it. BB up the bootay.
I wonder if I can remain on a "diet" long enough to manage it!

Qorten said:
I'm not the person to ever do a world conquest game myself, so I understand you when it comes to the generous peace offers to Portugal and Austria. Let's get your BB down enough to annex Venice, become Italy and become more powerful then you could ever have been as Milan. Another road would be to betray your long time vassal in a horrible way, but it would work. Of course then you'd have no other choice but to fight BB wars for the rest of the game and go for WC after all.
I'm more of a world hegemony guy, than a world conquest guy. Once you've got the whole world, what is there left to do but bicker among yourselves, eh? ;)

Chief Ragusa said:
Thanks to the Mamluks, I'm out of money.The Mamluks have not turned up with vast armies - yet. Wonder if they have them? That will make the war interesting.
The Mamluks are always fun, eh? Keep up the good work!

robou said:
so the Ottomans are still behind the barrier of the Austrians for another war. Lets hope you can keep those borders from touching.
Not for long... Watch! Within the next 5 years or so, we'll have TWO borders with them! :rolleyes:

PrawnStar said:
Presumably the Peace deals are about BB control so you can annex your vassels. The gamey way of doing the BB reduction would be to release a pack of OPM nations so you can DA France/Venice and then when the BB wars kick in for real just annex the minors back and damn the cost :D

This is the tricky phase in BB wars when War Exhaustion becomes a real issue - later you'll be so big and scary that the AI won't DOW anything like as easily.
I may consider releasing vassals... Seems a little counter productive, though. I'll have to see about that.

GhostWriter said:
this is why i asked you the question regarding number of countries you fought in a single war ! ! :wacko:

are not the Mamluks the sixth country you have fought in this war ? ? :rolleyes:
You know, you're right!!! I'd totally spaced that. I hadn't quite negotiated peace with Portugal when the Mamluks blew up at me, so... That's six!

Lord E said:
I guess we shouldn’t be surprised to see Milan at war once again. I was a bit surprised to see the very nice peace you made with Austria, but with the heathens expanding into Europe I think it was a wise move, you should try to keep Austria alive as a buffer zone as long as possible.
The war in the Middle East could have started better, but I think you are going to get the upper hand as soon as you get more forces to the front and then you can soak the sand with the blood of your enemies…
Yup. It's time to reduce tensions with "our brothers" and focus on who the real enemy is. My European borders are beyond what I ever expected them to be. My American borders too, for that matter! But I've always wanted to play in the Middle East, so here I come... :D

coz1 said:
I knew it. I believe you will spend the remaining years of this AAR either at war or recovering from one. Luckily, you are well equipped to handle such a protracted state of warfare. :D
I'm hoping I'll have at least periods of peace! Three or five years at a time is sufficient...

Hey, thanks everybody for reading and commenting!

Another update coming right up....

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Another significant slaughter at Beirut continued the trend of Mamluk casualties, as they attempted to contest with the stronger Milanese armies.

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Alexandria was again the site of tremendous struggle, as Gen. Pico nabbed the Mamluk attackers before they could do much damage.

In Damascus, Testi’s army hit the Mamluks just as they were in process of assaulting the walls of the city…

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That perfect timing resulted in much bloodletting among the Mamluk ranks, as they bled out their strength.

A smaller fight developed in Judea, near Jerusalem, even as another Imperial army began to starve the residents of Hawran out of their small fortress. The war was barely 4 months old, and already Milan had established supremacy across pretty much the whole front. Many years of warfare had reduced the actual ability of the Mamluks to exert control over even the lands they’d occupied for centuries.

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In more minor news, from across the world, we discovered what had probably happened to that Mecklenburger regiment which had fled from Choco as we took it over…

JungleTribes.jpg


Eek!

Pico’s victory at Alexandria was tempered by the arrival of Mamluk reinforcements, which had made his men suffer greatly, though they did finally turn the Mohammedans back. About 1,000 more of the enemy had been made to pay. However, Milan was far better prepared to absorb such losses.

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As Milan won more victories across the theatres of combat, Gen. Testi was asked to mount an offensive to the north, deep into northern Syria. Meeting a force of nearly equal size, he devastated them with a serious European-style attack, using weapons and tactics the Mamluks couldn’t cope with.

Once the Mamluks, under Yusuf Beg, fell away, Testi assaulted the city, and brought it under Imperial control…

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That city was only the first of several Mamluk cities to fall, though many others were already under siege, and were weakening by the day. The Mamluk armies had already been more or less spent, though they were never to be underestimated. Some, however, were surrendering, or dying in suicidal charges, never to be heard from again.

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Pico even had the temerity to attack the tattered remnants of the battle at Alexandria where they had retreated – the outskirts of Cairo! The Nile River Delta was also secured for the Empire.

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Gen. Testi was moving north, into Adana, where he met Yusuf’s tired troops again. Testi’s own, however, were also exhausted by this time, so there was some question how this latest attack would fare.

It was at this time, for whatever reason, that Ragusa chose to make their own ridiculous demands against Milan. Milan refused, and so they declared war, bringing the Knights and Muscovy with them. Perhaps they had counted on their Russian friends to be able to contend capably with Milan.

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But they failed to recognize that Moscow would be hardly able to access Milanese territory, lacking any land route, and being only able to land troops by sea. It was a puzzling war. But the Emperor knew it offered opportunities.

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As it was, Emperor Guido II took command, himself, of two contingents of two regiments each, which were landed successively in Ragusa, which the Ragusans had left undefended in order to attack Venice.

Across the Sea, more Mamluk territory fell to Milan. Things were already winding down, by August, on both fronts!
 

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awww thats right. No land route to the Russians. Be a nice place to visit for Milan...and to take.
 

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I can't keep up. With how many countries are you at war this time? And what were demands asked by Ragusa? It seems that event didn't make it into your screenshots.
 

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Ragusa and the Knights will make a good addition to Milanese holdings for the long awaited ottoman war. Muscow on the other hand will no doubt pay for their temerirty in duping poor Ragusa to declare war on the most powerful state in Europe. Not that they'll do much about reducing the BB. Good to see that you've found the Incas; finding all of their territory is most desirable.

the Mamluks seem tpo be a pale shadow of the power that fought Milan last time. Their armies just aren't strong enough. Then again, it does take time to bring up sizeable forces from the deep south. Have you got any units available to invade their Horn of Africa provinces?

I think that just leaves Lithuania of Europe's powers that has not contested top slot with Milan. Wouldn't want to leave them out, too long. This English quiessence is most distrurbing as they usually DoW whilst Milan's at war with somebody. They are up to something.
 

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The Mamluks look as if the wars are starting to catch up with them - there's usually a point when an AI major can't recover fast enough to hold you back if you keep hammering them - I suspect you are at that point.

Go for Alexandria in the peace deal, it's worth around 60% WS alone and at only 1BB will badly hurt the Mamluks while not being too bad on your ambitions to annex your remaining vassels.

I would guess Muscovy is the alliance leader - can you buy them off as I don't see anything worth gaining in that war while you're still trying to control your BB.
 

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I'd say take Alexandria and if possible also Gaza so their country is split in two. Will harm them greatly. What are you going to do with Ragusa? As you're trying to control your badboy, annexing them isn't exactly the right choice, although they asked for it to happen. Vassalize and later diplo-annex?
 

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Wow, Ragusa and the Knights! And Muscowy does not even have a land access! You must really feel threatened. It is annoying though. Having these stupid minors dowing you when you have no interest whatsoever in punishing them properly. And I guess you could use a few years of peace right now...
 

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Good update. I suspect that you have a land tech advantage over the Mamluks as the numbers brought to battle by both sides were fairly close at the initial contacts. I also noticed that you had several sieges to contend with (Damascus, Libya and Schwyz by the last screen shot) - I assume this is the result of WE (I did see the rebel standard over Damascus) - be careful as the BB wars rage!
I find in my own games once I have crossed the BB threshold (and, Like Milan, usually due to the aggressions of other states - :rolleyes: ) it actually becomes easier to handle multiple war fronts as you get into a "battle rhythm". Have some fun! :D