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The French do not appear to have made any gains in Germany. I expect they'll try to diploannex Provence during 1493, so as to be ready to kick off the French claims to Italy in 1494 with Milan its first victim.

The Venetians and Tuscans may actually surprise you. Their war will use a lot of money and men; resources they will not have when they have to face you.
 

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Seems like Europe is filled with war and conflict and now you are planning to go to war also. But I think your war will be good, you should crush Tuscany once and for all and teach them who shall rule in Italy :)
 

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Director said:
I know that you will have to keep one eye on the west, and you say you have plans for Tuscany. But Venice is the best place for you to think on now, as a long-term goal. Whether patient diplomacy (and vassalization) or a carefully placed military offensive while they are engaged elsewhere... there is no target in your reach more deserving of attention than Venice. At least that's my opinion. :p
Olaus Petrus said:
I wonder why you don't stab back the Venetians and Tuscans. Now, when they are in trouble with Turks, is the best possible moment to strike against them.
Chief Ragusa said:
The French do not appear to have made any gains in Germany. I expect they'll try to diploannex Provence during 1493, so as to be ready to kick off the French claims to Italy in 1494 with Milan its first victim.

The Venetians and Tuscans may actually surprise you. Their war will use a lot of money and men; resources they will not have when they have to face you.
Lord E said:
Seems like Europe is filled with war and conflict and now you are planning to go to war also. But I think your war will be good, you should crush Tuscany once and for all and teach them who shall rule in Italy :)
There's more feedback from further back I want to respond to, but I wanted to treat this first, as it seems to be a popular point of discussion... :D

Yes, the setup at this point is PERFECT for a backstab into Venice, which would involve Tuscany. I'm sure this would have been the absolute best time to do it, as the Papal States had just dishonoured their alliance...

Only problem is I had another distracting war instead...

And I'll tell you about that, first...

THEN I'll tell you about the big war of conquest which followed!

I have often been asked not to resort to cliffhangers. I have taken the issue under advisement, and will give it all the attention it deserves. :D

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I wonder anyway whether it might not have been better to wait to backstab Venice until just after peace with the Ottomans. That would not weaken Christendom against the Turk, yet take Venice when she would still be somewhat exhausted.

But what is this other war? Inquisitorial minds want to know! ;)
 

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Rensslaer said:
I have often been asked not to resort to cliffhangers. I have taken the issue under advisement, and will give it all the attention it deserves. :D
*cough* liar *cough*
;)

Perhaps Austria is involved in one of the wars? Or France? Or Burgundy? :D
 

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stnylan said:
But what is this other war? Inquisitorial minds want to know! ;)
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:rofl:
 

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The French decided not to wait but DoWed you anyway. You invited Brandenburg who thought what fun it would be to fight the French and they invited their other friends who thought, who can we invite along to the party -Aragon, Castile, England and Burgundy. Just when the French thought things couldn't possibly get any worse, the Breton revolted.
 

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Not one merchant left! :eek:

Trade accounted for ~60% of my income as milan!
 

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Rensslaer said:
I have often been asked not to resort to cliffhangers. I have taken the issue under advisement, and will give it all the attention it deserves. :D

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Cliffhangers are the staff of life. They're the stuff legends are made of. I've never met a cliffhanger I didn’t like. Fine fellows one and all. Whoever advised you to stop using cliffhangers probably beats his dog. Some of the greatest philosophers in the world have pondered over the conundrum of how many cliffs would a cliffhanger hang if a cliffhanger could hang cliffs. Not that I ever use them, nope not me. :D

Joe
 

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Storey said:
Cliffhangers are the staff of life. They're the stuff legends are made of. I've never met a cliffhanger I didn’t like. Fine fellows one and all. Whoever advised you to stop using cliffhangers probably beats his dog. Some of the greatest philosophers in the world have pondered over the conundrum of how many cliffs would a cliffhanger hang if a cliffhanger could hang cliffs. Not that I ever use them, nope not me. :D Joe
Well, Joe, I'm sure I could take a lesson or two from you!

Until I read your Sicilian tale today, I thought I was good at cliffhangers. But, then, I generally will at least tell the readers what the subject of the cliffhanger IS! You don't even do that! "Hey, folks, there's a cliffhanger here... Darned if I'm going to even tell you what it might involve, though, until tomorrow! :rofl: "

:D

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Yep - Joe wrote the book. Several of them in fact. ;)

So now we have another war which drags us away from the opportunity presnted in Tuscany. Alright. Interested. Very interested. :D
 

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Been out of it for a while but GREAT AAR! Was a little worried with all the acquisitions so fast that somebody, Aragon, would get pissed and attack you. But they didnt and Milan is definately The Italian Power.
 

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In November, 1492, our new ally, Brandenburg, asks us to involve ourselves in their war against neighboring Mecklenburg. We are hesitant, partly because we just set up a royal marriage with Mecklenburg, and partly because we have just built our stability back to high levels. Besideswhich, we have no quarrel with Mecklenburg, and haven’t since she competed with us in Centers of Trade (Mecklenburg has, for whatever reason, succumbed to the same kind of luck as have we in the trade wars).

But we are reluctant also to lose our alliance with Brandenburg. It could prove to be a valuable one. So we join the war, losing 2 stability because of our religious and marital ties (but not the extra 2 because we gain a casus belli through Brandenburg).

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We intend to send 2 fleets of approximately equal strength. This is a relatively risky passage for us, as we are unaccustomed to Atlantic travel. But we shall watch our ships carefully so that they are not lost. The fleet with our cogs will carry 4 regiments of mercenaries, under General Paradisi.

This will represent a limited involvement against Mecklenburg – a means of hopefully bringing them to the table early, so that Brandenburg will get what she intends in a minimum of time. Otherwise, we hope to capture ships from Mecklenburg’s navy – there is at least a chance of this, I believe.

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Two of the 4 carracks of the first fleet did suffer some damage from storms as they traversed the English Channel. However, the squadron arrived off the Burgundian coast in sufficient shape to face their first combat.

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A fleet from Mecklenburg was attempting to prevent Utrecht from boarding soldiers to send against them. We arrived on the scene at just this time. Utrecht did lose 1 cog, but we sunk a barque and a cog from Mecklenburg’s fleet.

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At the end of February, Mecklenburg’s Admiral Seeland came out to meet the new blockade we’d established on her coast. Without loss to either side, both navies were worn out from a long running engagement, and weather and combat combined to pose a serious danger to one of our carracks, which had lost spars and one of her masts in the engagement. Finding ourselves without a choice, this ship, at least, had to return home before she could no longer sail.

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Through the rest of March, Seeland followed and harried our damaged ships, forcing them up past Jutland and into the Kattegat, near Sweden. Fortunately, Seeland lost one of his ships in combat with the Milanese squadron.

Meanwhile, Admiral Bargnani had arrived off the coast of Burgundy with his fleet, and was able to capture a Mecklenburger cog. Later, off the Frisian coast, he sunk yet another of Mecklenburg’s smaller ships.

Ironically, Admiral Seeland’s pursuit of our squadron placed it in a perfect position to blockade Mecklenburg’s eastern coast, just as Bargnani’s squadron arrived to blockade them in the west!

Unfortunately, Seeland had his revenge when he captured one of our fleeing carracks, first (San Satiro), and then captured a second, the Teodolinda.

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Mecklenberg? The losses you are taking on Brandenberg's behalf should mean they will stick with you in any fight with Austria. Carving up France would have been much better!

How are the Catholic powers of Tuscany and Milan doing in their brave, if foolish fight with the Turks?
 

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Interesting decision to wage war against Mecklenburg. Personally I have tendency to honour my alliances, but not sent actual troops to far away countries and sign peace ASAP when they offer me money.
 

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Very nice AAR , i'm reading it because i'm playing with Milano too and i like your style of playing and writing.
I must confess that i'm a newbie and i'm playing my first game with EU3 , but you're teach me something new every day :)
I'm quite in the same situation against tuscany but in my game they have a lot of defensive mens in Florence (sometingh like 10000 , and it's too hard for me), but i'm in 1530.
By the way i think you're going very well and i'll take a look at your great AAR , go Milano!

P.S. I have the same problems with trade :( :( :(
 

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Well, hopefully this will assist in giving you some naval tradition at least. Too bad about the captured ships. And interesting that you chose to use Mercs for this mission. Where you afraid of sending true regiments for fear of losing them to the sea?
 

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Getting involved in a war far away, well at least you honoured your alliance, and sending the fleet to the north should give your sailors some experience and all. Let us hope you can get the mercenary into Mecklenburg soon and defeat them