SF: Production Autoslider problem

[sbr]

I am playing SF.

I have been cruising along for 18 months with the AI running my production sliders. Now in July of '37 I am wasting ~38 IC:

It has been like this for at least 14 days if not more. I have changed from AI to manual control, closed the production window, changed AI priorities and nothing helps.

Anyone have any idea on why the sliders aren't working anymore?

 

[Wunderlicht]

It's telling you to build more!!!

you have tons of supplies and not using much, so its being efficient and letting you know that you should be building more if you want. Otherwise go manual.

Middle ground would be to build maybe 15IC of stuff and then prioritize Supply

 

[Lothos]

Yes what he said, the AI is telling you to build more!

 

[sbr]

It's telling you to build more!!!

you have tons of supplies and not using much, so its being efficient and letting you know that you should be building more if you want. Otherwise go manual.

Middle ground would be to build maybe 15IC of stuff and then prioritize Supply

Is that what it is? I was wondering if that was it. I am not sure I like the AI telling me how to use my IC. I guess it is time to build some more then.

 

[Wunderlicht]

Well its either wasting IC on producing units or waste it on supplies which would last years?

There is reason to stock supplies which the AI wouldn't know about, like preparing for Barbarossa... but again it can't read your mind.

Like I said before you can adapt to things by prioritizing supply and building a little more.

Just think of it as your generals screaming for more men and your warehouses screaming they have no room.

 

[unmerged(150564)]

Is that what it is? I was wondering if that was it. I am not sure I like the AI telling me how to use my IC. I guess it is time to build some more then.

Well you DID select AI control so....:wacko:

 

[sbr]

Yes what he said, the AI is telling you to build more!

Thanks Lothos. Was it the 50k supply mark I hit that made it dump the IC into production?

 

[sbr]

Well you DID select AI control so....:wacko:

I want the AI to put the slider where they need to be based on what I am building. I don't particularly want the AI to decide when I have enough supplies and start wasting my IC for me. It isn't a big deal at all, I haven't used the autosliders much before so I was just wondering.

 

[unmerged(53215)]

Maybe its conserving resources?

If the AI countries are to not overbuild then your AI won't either.

For now if you really want the supply excess go manual.

 

[Hevendor]

Yes what he said, the AI is telling you to build more!

I honestly can't tell if this is meant to be serious or sarcastic, Lothos.

 

[Lothos]

I want the AI to put the slider where they need to be based on what I am building. I don't particularly want the AI to decide when I have enough supplies and start wasting my IC for me. It isn't a big deal at all, I haven't used the autosliders much before so I was just wondering.

Well that is your opinion, there are others who would disagree with you. If you don't like the way it does it you can always make it manual control.

 

[Lothos]

I honestly can't tell if this is meant to be serious or sarcastic, Lothos.

I was being seroius.

 

[Hevendor]

I was being seroius.

Would you be able to share the criteria/triggers for the automated sliders deciding to do this? Is there a supply threshold of some sort?

 

[sbr]

Well that is your opinion, there are others who would disagree with you. If you don't like the way it does it you can always make it manual control.

I didn't mean to criticize or imply there was anything wrong with it, I was just confused and stating my opinion on how I would like it in a perfect world.

 

[Lothos]

Would you be able to share the criteria/triggers for the automated sliders deciding to do this? Is there a supply threshold of some sort?

AI calculates based on current usage how many supplies you need to run for 20 weeks. Once you hit that mark it cuts back on supply production and shifts it to IC.

 

[Hevendor]

AI calculates based on current usage how many supplies you need to run for 20 weeks. Once you hit that mark it cuts back on supply production and shifts it to IC.

Duly noted. Just wanted to have an understanding of how that would work. Thank you.

 

[unmerged(32292)]

Is that what it is? I was wondering if that was it. I am not sure I like the AI telling me how to use my IC. I guess it is time to build some more then.

Well if you don't like the AI telling you how to use your IC, take it off AI control.

 

[rud]

didn't the AI used to dump the excess in supplies before?

 

[Wunderlicht]

didn't the AI used to dump the excess in supplies before?

I believe so until Lothos came onto the scene, but then you ended up having 99999 supplies and it still kept going.

I like it much better this way... it gives control to you and enables a sort of advisory role from the AI. You should be managing the production yourself anyways. It is very easy to see when this happens with the coloured banner at the top of the screen.

Like I've said twice already, you can change the priority to supply and build up a little more IC in AA or factories or something and you'll still get the best of all worlds.

EDIT: Oh yea,... my thanks to you Lothos for your hard efforts and work!

 

[silenced]

Stupid AI move, seriously. I often want overproduction of supply if playing Germany for example, just to get more trades to buy more metal/raws ... I'm a constant IC builder, so I always run short sooner or later, then it's usually time to capture another major to fill it up again. =)