Sexy borders

[tuareg109]

YAAYYYYAYAYYY!

I can't thank you enough, Paradox team, for the way the borders in EUIV have turned out.
Historical borders along rivers and mountain ranges (borders of France, Hungary, Austria, and in the Balkans in particular are notably desirable), and more/smaller provinces grant you a huge plus in my book.

Looks like when I buy EUIV, I won't have to find a provinces/border mod to go with it! Thanks!

 

[Lordrac]

Wales is a two province nation. How is that good? Ireland is tiny too. Mainland europe might look nice, but there are a lot of areas that need polishing. Some vast areas of Africa are just wasteland for example 0_o

 

[Doimper]

Some vast areas of Africa are just wasteland for example 0_o

That's because these areas weren't possible to explore until the Victorian era. If anything, I'm of the opinion that not enough of Africa is wasteland.

 

[tuareg109]

Wales is a two province nation. How is that good? Ireland is tiny too. Mainland europe might look nice, but there are a lot of areas that need polishing. Some vast areas of Africa are just wasteland for example 0_o

Ah, well, I didn't see Wales and Ireland very clearly in any "Demo Empire" screenshots, but at least the current template of borders following large rivers, mountains, and sexy historical borders will clearly continue in patches and expansions (Switzerland started as a 2PM in EUIII, by HttT--I think--it had six provinces, for example; I hope, if only for your enjoyment, that other areas of the world follow that trend).
As for Africa, well...not to seem insensitive, but who cares about Africa?

 

[Cynical Dreamer]

That's because these areas weren't possible to explore until the Victorian era. If anything, I'm of the opinion that not enough of Africa is wasteland.

Hello,

I agree. Most of the African interior should be off limits (or under 25% attrition month at the very least) for non native factions in the game, and uncolonizable. The main reason Europeans didn't explore/conquer was the heat & sicknesses carried by the insects, that killed (and still do) men and horses.

 

[Theddude]

That's because these areas weren't possible to explore until the Victorian era. If anything, I'm of the opinion that not enough of Africa is wasteland.

Totally agreed, it's disheartening to see Spain having a colonial empire beginning to stretch down West Africa in the early 1500s.

 

[Sn3ipen]

What we need is a Africa DLC.

Edit: I somehow forgot the topic of The OP and yes, The European borders are sexy!

 

[AndreasPhokas]

africa will definately need an overhaul.

Ireland needs modifiers to help them survive britain better(increase force limits,reduce in troop cost,decreased recruitment time modifiers). As for wales, 2 provinces is fine i could see a third one(one in gwynedd,glamorgan,powys) however. One of my first games will be a wales converted game then i will lead wales to victory!

 

[Inkshootr]

I think it's okay that the coastline is colonizable, Portugal did establish several trading posts along the African coast.

 

[unmerged(584823)]

I think it's okay that the coastline is colonizable, Portugal did establish several trading posts along the African coast.

Yep, several, problem with EU is that you can colonize ALL of the coastline, which is, I believe, impossible.

 

[grommile]

Yep, several, problem with EU is that you can colonize ALL of the coastline, which is, I believe, impossible.

It's not really that you can colonize all the coastline that's the problem.

It's the amount of inland territory you can colonize - even though it's malarial all year round - that's the problem.

 

[unmerged(584823)]

It's not really that you can colonize all the coastline that's the problem.

It's the amount of inland territory you can colonize - even though it's malarial all year round - that's the problem.

To me, both are wrong, a country should not be able to maintain a strong presence in Africa until the late game imo.

 

[aitaituo]

Wales is a two province nation. How is that good? Ireland is tiny too. Mainland europe might look nice, but there are a lot of areas that need polishing. Some vast areas of Africa are just wasteland for example 0_o

You're right. Wales should be one province and Ireland should be four.

 

[Inkshootr]

It's not really that you can colonize all the coastline that's the problem.

It's the amount of inland territory you can colonize - even though it's malarial all year round - that's the problem.

I agree, the Sub-Saharan inland should be off-limits. Mali, Ethiopia, and Adal (Somalia) are okay, and so are the other coastal tribal nations, but it's silly how deep into the Dark Continent you can go with an army several thousand strong.

 

[mocoman2001]

in the year 1492 Christopher Columbus took his army of 30 thousands into the heart of Africa and it made it bend is knee to the influence of Europe. he was greatly aided by modern medicine and its ability to produce a vaccine for malaria before they even knew there was malaria.

 

[bussoloni]

in the year 1492 christopher columbus took his army of 30 thousands into the heart of africa and it made it bend is knee to the influence of europe. He was greatly aided by modern medicine and its ability to produce a vaccine for malaria before they even knew there was malaria.

lol

 

[Theddude]

Another point for me to add was how pleased I was to see that Portugal was no longer misshapen at the top like EU3, it looks very nice now.

To me, both are wrong, a country should not be able to maintain a strong presence in Africa until the late game imo.

More like at all, honestly. Seeing such a huge European presence along the coast in the game is just weird, it makes it Americas 2.0, whereas it would be nice if it remained more or less the Dark Continent to outsiders for the entire game. This is of course excepting those few areas like South(ern) Africa where Europeans did eventually colonize a bit in the period. Africa should be mostly left to its own devices, it might actually make it more fun to play in Africa as well, without being annihilated by Europeans before the 16th century is up.

Or maybe they should just add a type of terrain that gives massive attrition on non-African tech group stacks above, say, 1000.