My last game as the Roman Empire, the Iberian kingdoms only fell in the 1190's as western Europe fell into catholic-orthodox civil wars (which soaked up all the holy orders). Before that they were doing fine, thanks to French help and holy orders.
SERIOUSLY?! Months later I buy the expansion and this is still a problem?!
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There's only one thing to say: Why knights aren't around in 1066?
All Christian states in the West should have knights in 1066. Not a lot, but enough. In Spain, Christians won two of every three battles to the Muslims, even in inferiority, because of knights. In CK1, it was so; they had large armies supported by light cavalry and infantry, but you had knights that helped a lot. Now, heavy cavalry is mostly not present, at least in Spain, at gamestart.
1030-1050 is the dawn of the knightly era. By 1066, knights must be there, with which William the Bastard became William the Conqueror, with which the First Crusade was won, with which Sicily was taken.
Give Christians more heavy cavalry and they will win more often than not, if they have good cavalry commanders.
All Christian states in the West should have knights in 1066. Not a lot, but enough. In Spain, Christians won two of every three battles to the Muslims, even in inferiority, because of knights. In CK1, it was so; they had large armies supported by light cavalry and infantry, but you had knights that helped a lot. Now, heavy cavalry is mostly not present, at least in Spain, at gamestart.
1030-1050 is the dawn of the knightly era. By 1066, knights must be there, with which William the Bastard became William the Conqueror, with which the First Crusade was won, with which Sicily was taken.
Give Christians more heavy cavalry and they will win more often than not, if they have good cavalry commanders.
I started as Poland in 1066. The Fatimids conquered Italy and Burgundy at the peak of their power, most of Spain was turning muslim as well. But while the first crusade for Italy failed, the next one didn't. It is now 1320, and the tables have turned quite a bit. Spain is mostly catholic (apart from orthodox Andalusia), Italy and Burgundy have long been reconquered as well as Sicily. Tunis and Algeria have been conquered by France, became catholic and then gained their independence. Venice got Libya. The ERE has conquered and converted the duchy to the left of cairo, as well as several duchies in Syria and Mesopotamia. The Ilkhanate is huge and still Tengri, slowly converting everything. The remaining Muslimlands are a patchwork of independent nations, nothing powerfull remains.
If anything I am a bit disappointed there is no strong Muslim player left (to check the ERE and Ilkhanate). Maybe I just got lucky, or maybe you should just side with the catholic AI when needed and help with crusades and stuff, like I did.
If anything I am a bit disappointed there is no strong Muslim player left (to check the ERE and Ilkhanate). Maybe I just got lucky, or maybe you should just side with the catholic AI when needed and help with crusades and stuff, like I did.
In my latest the game Hispania has been formed by the Jimenas (without me helping them), the latest patch definently seemed to balance thing out in Iberia..
In my latest games, the Fathimid collapsed when trying to invade Sicily. Now Egypt has been in sicilian Hands for 200 Years and nearly the only muslim states left are in Mali and the Khanates.
Since I was Scandinavia (starting as Sweden) I did not really intervene and the AIs managed to destroy the Fatimids on their own. So clearly, the Fatimids do not always win.
Since I was Scandinavia (starting as Sweden) I did not really intervene and the AIs managed to destroy the Fatimids on their own. So clearly, the Fatimids do not always win.
I've only witnessed France falling to Moslems once and that was a pre-1.07 game.Yes,Christian in Iberia are weak.Yes,France can have some vassal problems.Even starting in 1066,I generally see France Surviving.Iberian Christians Getting Steamrolled and then France or HRE Steamrolling the Moslems.The GERMAN Kingdoms of Mauretainia and Mali are more of a problem.Factions have slowed the blobs a bit but I think that Moslems might be UNDERPOWERED! Their Blob the Fatimids now regularly get ROFL stomped by the mongols and Gets ganged up on by the Christian blobs.
In most of my games the mediteranean becomes a Christian lake.By 1300 the moslems are like Pagans at start in 1066.
In most of my games the mediteranean becomes a Christian lake.By 1300 the moslems are like Pagans at start in 1066.
I havnet had any of my mediteraneans going into a Christian lake!
though...
wait..
yes they did!!! Castille beat back the muslims in mine and took all of west Africa!!
and also England took all of the holy land and alexandria!
and the Byzantines kept Asia minor!
the only muslim part was the black sea and the top middle part of africa... (wait no, the black see was pagan from golden horde)
what do you know, you might be right, the muslims might be underpowered!!!
(though i have been starting my date at 1099 so the muslims are divided at start, so my games do not count!)
5 games since patch, only 1 out of 5 game, muslim can break byzantine for good and devoured half of french. The other 4 game, usually by 1150-1250, the table turned completely. In one of my game, the pope owned half of the Spanish :wacko: