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Too bad that Wallachia died of an early death. There were few countries more adept at surviving in Eastern Europe. Not to mention its northern neighbour.

And well, the fall of Constantinopole could be seen as a great "dynastic" stain as well as a sort of proto-national stain on the collective mind of the Serbs. This would mean that its "liberation" would always remain a potential objective (redemption etc.) for any ruler pious or capable enough (or both).

Plus, really how many times can the Ottomans take being expelled from Europe and STILL keep their capital there?

Awaiting the crusade.:)
 
Sep 6, 2008
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The so called Balkan Crusade that was neither Balkan nor Crusade

Or

Djuradj as a Genius of Political Scheming

The situation in Hungary during this Serbian salto mortale was totally a chaotic one, nobles struggling for supremacy and giving their support to whatever foreign candidate promising more personal interest. The feudalism at its worst, if I may add and you, noble or not so noble reader, may find the following number of high and mighty names a tad too big. Finally, since most of Hungary has been captured by Wladyslaw's supporters, support for Ladislaus Postumus is fading and Ulászló is commonly acknowledged as rightful King. When the conflict broke out between Loyalists, who supported the rightful infante King Ladislaus Postumus, son of late Emperor Albrecht I, and Nationalists who wanted to install Polish King Wladyslaw, Despot Djuradj was not in a position to choose sides. His another daughter's marriage with Ulrich II of Cilli, leader of Loyalist faction, already made his decision for him. Although Djuradj wasn't in a position to offer much active support to Ulrich's faction, Count of Cilli still maintained good relationships with his father-in-law, even though Djuradj opted to tie his fate to the Ottomans. Now, that Hungary has been fortified, their king cannot stand such an insecure position without controlling Serbia as a buffer state AND having a direct border with the Ottomans in Wallachia. Hectic diplomatic activity enfolds, but Djuardj is adamant, he will stay loyal to his new Master, the Sultan. Hungarian king, now well disposed towards our Despot, decides to settle the question of who’s the master of the Balkans once and for all and to declare a crusade against the Ottomans directly, on December 8th 1442! Even the date, in the middle of winter, shows how secure of his power the Hungarian king was!

Now is the brilliant moment of Djuradj’s political genius. The Sultan, his Master, asks him to honour their alliance and join him in a war against Hungary (standing alone, no help for this crusade came from the well spoken Curia… ah, Latin Usurpers, how empty your promises are…). At the same time, Hungarian delegation is in Smederevo, asking Djuradj to join the crusade, thanks to his personal connection to Count of Cilli! The two delegations strife to gain the upper hand, and Djuradj makes excellent use of being so highly sought in this war of wars: He accepts to defend his Ottoman Master AND to enter the Crusade, but entering the crusade at this point simply means to stop being an Ottoman vassal. Hungarians go back home happy, thinking they secured Djuradj’s help and our relations are excellent once again, the Sultan needs our help and accepts Serbia as an ally. For the first time relations with the Sultan are positive (+1) AND also with the Hungarians (+140) who are not aware that we’re actually at war with them!

You have to admit pure genius of our ruler, oh, friends. And you simply must love this mod for its historical possibilities. Best mod ever.

The only cost was betraying entire Serbian’s tradition and history.

(to be continued)
 
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Chief Ragusa said:
What Serbian tradition and honour? Don't you just make it up as you go along? +140 relations with a country you're at war with - that's truly Byzantine diplomacy!

Heh... ultimatively, you're right, if you think about the history of a nation, but that can be said for every country then. I ment being against the Turks and for the Christians, not a war against Hungarians, that happened a lot during the middle ages.

If you think that I make the story up as I go, well, it's based on the game and some history.

For example, a Croatian noble will rule Serbia at some point in the 16th century becouase a certain Berislavic happened in RL, and your Ragusa will play some role as well.

Cheers for the input!
 

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Okay, so you...broke your vassalage to the Ottos, but allied with them?

LOL! Fun read!
 
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CatKnight said:
Okay, so you...broke your vassalage to the Ottos, but allied with them?

LOL! Fun read!

Yes! So, at the beginning of that war, I'm allied to the Ottos, no more a vassal and in a war against Hungarians, with relations of +140 with them... :D

Byzantine politics all the way

(soon I'll be back to vassalage, though... another event took place)
 
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During these opening stages of the War, Gjon Kastrioti dies in Albania and Sultan puts Hassan Bey in command there. In 1442 while Skanderbeg was fighting under the banner of Sultan Murat II, his father Gjon died. The death of this valiant Albanian Prince induced the Sultan to occupy, without losing time, this region also, thus adding more territory to his conquests. Gjergj Kastrioti, undoubtedly the ablest of the sons of Gjon was islamized and the other three sons were of no value whatsoever, and Murat II therefore bequeathed the principality to an Albanian renegade named Hassan Bey, who in a short time betrayed his country by putting the entire domain under the rule of the Crescent Moon.

Since Djuradj amassed some 200 gold in treasury, he easily organizes sufficiently large army and while the main Hungarian army is gathering far away to face mighty Ottoman and allied Albanian forces crossing the Danube and entering Banat and Siebenburgen, our Army enters the province of Croatia and attacks a small Hungarian post there, to their utter amazement, to see whom they thought to be an ally attacking them in January to that as well! Of course, all resistance is shattered and it takes Hungarians some months to gather an additional small force to try to push back our army. We give them battle in July 1443 and crush them. Additional force is assembled near Smederevo, just in time to stop the river-crossing Hungarian forces, two times the size and in October they’re pushed back over the Danube. Finally, Smederevo pays off, we all rejoice while Danube is red with blood of the unfortunately slain!

In 1443, during the battle against the Hungarians of Hunyadi in Siebenburgen, Gjergj Skanderbeg Kastrioti abandoned the Ottoman Army, went back and captured Kruja, his father's seat in middle Albania. Above the castle he rose the Albanian flag, the present-day Albanian flag, a red flag with the black double-headed eagle (albeit heraldically speaking a disaster, trust me, oh friends, as I’m a heraldist, that breaks the most basic rule of heraldry, metal on coulour and colour on metal) and pronounced to his countrymen the famous words: 'I have not brought you liberty, I found it here, among you'. Albania leaves the Sultan’s alliance, who’s pissing mad (if you’d pardon my Serbian) for it and makes him realize just how worth small Serbia is for keeping his back safe in the West for the time being. During that time Venetia enters a prolonged war as well against Hanover, something to remember for next chapter.

In January 1444, the town of Zagreb falls to Serbian hands. Croatians are bewildered and do nothing either to help us or to frustrate our efforts. Djuradj gathers all the forces he has there, some 20.000, that cost a fortune to keep, and sets off to Pest where in series of small battles he approaches the castle of the king, who’s busy east. In July, it falls, even we are surprised at how quickly the castle crew gave in! (this later, in 1654, inspired one artist to make his famous picture “The Crossing of the Drava”, but it was not as near as so pompous…) Djuradj and count of Cilli meet there and on 29th July 1444 a peace is signed - Kingdom of Croatia, a similar Slav nation to Serbia, for centuries an autonomous part of the Hungarian kingdom, is hereby given to Serbia to rule! Also, the lands around Belgrade are reincorporated into Serbia, but Smederevo stays the capital of our country.

You can imagine that this accord would never have taken place if the Hungarians were not badly loosing all over the land, count Cilli being practically close family to Djuradj and at the same time with a particularly nasty headache of seeing Hungary undergoing a similarly nasty revolt spree. (actually, the first time I played this, the government of Hungary collapsed and we got Pest as well and the Turks some four provinces, effectively making Hungary a minor country, but I decided that would be unrealistic at this stage, and played again). Indeed, no chances would any European state at that time have with feudalism against the rising might of Sultan’s. In this fashion Hungarians could try to concentrate battling the Turks, having somehow easily swallowed loss of Croatia, couped with former loss of Dalmatia to Venice, which will come to us under unfortunate Vuk II, the slain-by-son king.

Mehmed II rose to the throne in Ottoman Empire in August of the same year, 1444, and it was very easy now to persuade him to prolong our alliance, as the war in Hungary was particularly fierce. But this time we are a free state, not vassals!

Serbia never controlled the lands of Croatia before. Serbia was completely independent for the first time in some 60 years and in good relations with the Ottomans (+25) and Hungarians (+140)! Reputation is -5,9, whish is not that bad, but treasury is only 76 gold, after tax collector is organized in our Croatia. Long live Mara Brankovich, who has just returned to Smederevo a widow, our saviour!

Croatian populace isn’t too happy with the solution, but this is the end of the middle ages and they see Djuradj as yet another foreign ruler in an endless row of uncroatian rulers. At least he speaks a similar language, although a schismatic in their eyes.

“But little profits a man to gain Earth if he looses his Soul”, thinks Djuradj.

Well, he gained Croatia
1444.jpg
 

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Looks good! Now you must punish Albania for abandoning your ally as well as their horrific heraldry! :)