Seperate Coalitions peaces possibe?!

[Korashy]

I've been playing around a bit with BYZ and I noticed that using Holy War CB I was able to separate peace out 2 man coalition. This even worked when the coalition member I declared on was not the warleader (I declared war on Persia (coalition member) who passed war leader to a non coalition ally).

I've also been defender of the faith pretty much all game, so I'm not sure if it's the Holy War CB in itself or the Defender of the Faith CB allowing you to do this. Can anyone else verify?

 

[MiniaAr]

I have seen this too. As Russia, I declared on Crimea, sole member of the coalition against me. They called in their ally the Ottomans who wasn't a member but became warleader. Then I could enforce peace on Crimea and the Ottos separately.
I used this golden opportunity to get a 100% warscore peace with both of them, which was quite neat, to say the least. :happy:
I used the Holy War CB against Crimea, and the ticking warscore also worked against the Ottos. (I wasn't defender of the faith by the way).

 

[aitaituo]

This even worked when the coalition member I declared on was not the warleader (I declared war on Persia (coalition member) who passed war leader to a non coalition ally).

If you DoW a coalition member and the warleader switches to a nation that is not in the coalition against you, it ceases to be a coalition war.

I have seen this too. As Russia, I declared on Crimea, sole member of the coalition against me. They called in their ally the Ottomans who wasn't a member but became warleader. Then I could enforce peace on Crimea and the Ottos separately.

Allies who are not members of a coalition who are called into a coalition war can make separate peace because they are not members of the coalition.

Additionally, I think wars against single nation coalitions don't get treated as coalition wars, because I've been able to take non-claim, non-core provinces in peace with them.

 

[Korashy]

Both Ethiopia and Persia were in the coalition against me and I was able to separate peace both of them.

 

[aitaituo]

Both Ethiopia and Persia were in the coalition against me and I was able to separate peace both of them.

You said that the warleader was not a member of the coalition. Is that correct? Because if the war leader is not a member of the coalition, then it is not a coalition war and separate peace can be freely made with all nations in the war including coalition members.

 

[MiniaAr]

If you DoW a coalition member and the warleader switches to a nation that is not in the coalition against you, it ceases to be a coalition war.

I did not know this. 900hours of play and you still learn everyday.

 

[Korashy]

You said that the warleader was not a member of the coalition. Is that correct? Because if the war leader is not a member of the coalition, then it is not a coalition war and separate peace can be freely made with all nations in the war including coalition members.

Probably should have made myself clearer. I fought that coalition twice in a row. The second time Ethiopia wasn't around anymore to participate however, seeing as they were practicing their greek.

First time: Ethiopia and Persia + non coalition Oman (may have been war leader, not sure)
Second time: Persia + random alliances (one being war leader)

Still never seen this happen.

 

[aitaituo]

Probably should have made myself clearer.

They only thing that is relevant is whether or not the war leader was a member of the coalition against you. If the war leader is not a member of the coalition, then it is not a coalition war and separate peace can be freely made with all nations in the war including coalition members.