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I second the REPPA.
 

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Actually, I'm going to have to revise my own bill, there has been a mistake in it. I meant to say that either the GA or the Senate needs to have 6 votes in order to reject the veto, not both.

OOC: Got it confused with what I was saying in an earlier post about impeachment, sorry.
 

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Regarding REPPA, I support the veto and the override, but I do not support the vote on ministers. Perhaps these should be seperated and voted as different issues.

On to other matters: Is Democracy dead in Eutopia? What has this body done during this term? Almost nothing. What has this administration done? Almost nothing. I propose the following motion:

A Resolution Requesting a Budgetary Proposal

As the Sergei administration is half-over, and no budgetary proposal has been sent to the Assembly, the Assembly demands that the administration propose a budget, or the Assembly shall propose one itself.

The administration has two weeks to propose its budget.


Secondly, I request a second for my Amendment for Subpoena powers, and I second the IFAA and request it be brought to a vote.

Thirdly, I propose the follow act:

A bill to fully fund the modernization of the Armed Forces of Eutopia.

1. $12.5 billion ducats shall be made available in this fiscal year to provide initial funding for the modernization of the Eutopian Armed Forces, in accordance with the attached military directives.

2. $12.5 billion ducats shall be made available in the next fiscal year to continue funding of the modernization of the Eutopian Armed Forces, in accordance with the attached military directives.

3. For the next two fiscal years, the budget for ENDTech shall be increased by $6 billion ducats.

3. The required funds shall be borrowed against the credit of Eutopia.

I request a second, and am prepared for debate on the matter.

This Assembly has failed the people of Eutopia. We've done nothing, and it is time to move forward. Now.

Lest the people echo Oliver Cromwell: "You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately... Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"

In the name of the people of Eutopia, let us do some of the peoples' work, or let us go.
 

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"Mr Speaker, Members of the House, I propose this bill for consideration:

Value Added Tax Act (VATA)

I. A 10% VAT shall be introduced nationwide on the passing of this act.

II. This VAT will be decreased by 5% for goods such as:
a. Infant products (Push chairs, pacifiers...)
b. Educational products (School books, Educational videos...)
d. Food items purchased in stores (Milk, bread...)

III. The VAT will be increased by 5% for products such as:
a. Luxury vehicles (Ð40,000+)
b. Luxury homes (Ð600, 000+)
c. Civilian firearms
d. Jewelry/Gems
e. Animal fur clothing

Any suggested alterations would be helpful."
 

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"And I would also like to propose another bill for consideration:

Second Revision to the Eutopian Presidential Powers Amendment (SREPPA)

Section One: This Amendment will concern this part of The Constitution:

Constitution for the United Provinces of Eutopia

Part IV: The Federal Parliment

Art. 19. [Legislative process]
(d) If a bill secures the approval of at least five Senators, it is passed into law; otherwise, it fails. Constitutional amendments require the approval of at least six Senators. The President will have the power to veto any bill or Constitutional Amendment. A veto must be rejected by at least six Senators or six MGAs for it to have no effect, otherwise the bill or Amendment will be defeated. For constitutional amendments the votes required are one more (7 to reject veto).

Section Two: This Amendment will come into effect at the start of Term XI.
 

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"Lt General, on the subject of the Military Modernization Bill I have no desire to repeat the dogma (on both sides) about the issue, but the fact is that Eutopia cannot afford 25 Billion Ducats to be spent on the Military."
 

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"I fear, Mr. Gonzov, that we can't afford not to modernize. If there is ever a time to accept some extra debt, this is the time. The military cannot - I cannot - guarantee the survival of the nation if we are attacked. Let me be clear - the military will fight to defend the country - I will fight to defend the country - but in our current state, I will not guarantee the outcome. Does this place a debt burden on future Eutopians? Yes. But it helps ensure that there will be future Eutopians."
 

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Mr. Gonzov, that is just about the same exact bill as you have already proposed. That was rejected because it did not give powers to the GA. Quite honestly, I see you preparing yourself for a presidency next term in which you have absolute power. You must learn to compromise, as I have, make concessions; don't merely try to jam the same thing down everyone's throats again and again.
 

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I utmostly agree with Mr. Levarge; we must have a military able to defend our country, and we have certainly done little this term, something that must be remedied. The military needs this money. You remember during the Secession Crisis, when we could not put a single plane into the air to defend ourselves, do you not? Without the implementation of the Tilly reforms, our army, navy, and especially "air force" will stand helpless against the powers of the world, and possibly even our former citizens in Tilapia and St. Esprit.

Furthermore, Mr. Levarge, I see no other way to balance the power between the Legislative and the Executive. Currently it is favoring the GA too much, but if we give the president the power to veto without any balance for the GA, it will favor the president.

Also, I second the Subpoena Powers Amendment.

One more thing, I do not support the VAT bill as it stands, especially with the 5% increase/decrease. I believe it needs to be a flat 10% VAT, and it seems to me to be an excuse to tax those who do not agree with your views on the environment (animal fur clothing, etc.).
 
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Mr. Reczynski, I will support your amendment to Article 19. I believe it is a seperate issue from your amendment to Article 7, however. I urge you to break it into two bills, and I will second Article 19, and further discussions can be had on Article 7.
 

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I believe they are one in the same issue: checks and balances. If we introduce Art. 19, we will be overpowering the president, which will not achieve my goal for this amendment, which is to balance the powers not just grant more power to the Executive.
 

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"Mr Reczynski, SREPPA gives powers for the GA to stop a Veto, therefore I have altered my original bill and it does give balance to the Legislative. I do not see why you are complaining about my trying to prepare myself absolute power next Term, as that point is neither here nor there."
 

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No, it does not give a balance. It gives a way to defeat a veto, but the GA is still in a much, much weaker position than previously. Any balance, however slight, would give this bill much more favor. It is not necessarily the fact that I want the balance, it is the fact that I want this bill to pass, and I am willing to compromise in order to do so.
 

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I second the discussion on the VATA, but I request certain modifications:

Value Added Tax Act (VATA)

I. VAT tax will have three rates depending on category of product or service.

II. A 0% VAT tax will include following product and service categories:
a. Infant products (any product or service designed for use by children under 2 years of age, from diapers to daycare)
b. Educational products, materials used by Eutopian educational system
c. Basic foodstuff, namely: Bread, Milk, Flour, Water
d. Medicines
e. All medical services other than elective plastic surgery

III. A 25% VAT tax will include following products and service categories:
a. Luxury vehicles (Ð40,000+)
b. Luxury homes (Ð600, 000+)
c. Luxury boats (Đ100, 000+)
d. Civilian firearms
e. Jewelry/Gems
f. Animal fur clothing
g. Elective plastic surgery

IV. All products and services not mentioned in articles III. and IV. will be taxed at 10% VAT rate
 

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No, it does not give a balance. It gives a way to defeat a veto, but the GA is still in a much, much weaker position than previously. Any balance, however slight, would give this bill much more favor. It is not necessarily the fact that I want the balance, it is the fact that I want this bill to pass, and I am willing to compromise in order to do so.

"Mr Reczynski, I belive that the Legislative was already overpowered and a Veto power was needed for the President. Now, if you want to give powers to the GA to overturn a Veto and choose Ministers, then that goes beyond balancing the power. It goes into giving extra power to the GA for no good reason. I too am willing to compromise, and I have done so."
 

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Giving the GA the power to overturn a veto is not granting extra power, it is making sure the president's veto power is not ultimate, just a possible stumbling block for bad legislation.
 

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"Yes, and I have comprimised."
 

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I would like to submit a new idea to the GA: The breakup of the monopoly of ENDTech over defense contracts. This would allow MDIS to get the biggest bang for their buck, relieving the strain on the budget somewhat; something we desperately need at this point. There are three ways to go about this:

1) Do it through ENDTech. We pass legislation stating that ENDTech must outsource certain contracts or even all production to other companies. However, this would mean ENDTech gets to choose the companies and would still to some extent have a monopoly over arms production.

2) All production contracts to different companies (chosen by defense department, not ENDTech), research stays at ENDTech. However, we could also just open production contracts up to any company, including ENDTech.

3) Break ENDTech's monopoly and open up all defense contracts to any company. This includes ENDTech, but they will have to compete for it. This gives the defense department more control and less expense.

I support option 3, it will overall be best for the defense budget, I believe. Furthermore, we may want to consider the privatization of ENDTech, ala Marticon. While Marticon has gone into deep debt in recent years, we have learned from our mistakes and perhaps are ready to do it again.
 

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Mr. Reczynski, while I respect the work you put into making MDIS more economically efficient, all these suggestions open up various security issues. Should private companies have ability and access to military equipment, and how this might affect stability and order in Eutopia? How closely will such production be controlled? While it might not be the most economically efficient solution I feel more at ease knowing that the government has control over all weapons industry and therefore making domestic weapons industry a hardly accessible source for various groups that might threaten internal safety of our great nation.