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Timothy said:
Per Speaker,
I should point out that two year's base salary for an E-5 (sergeant) is only 38,400 ducats, or 16,200 per annum. (Of course, in the event their actual income is likely higher because of longevity bonuses, separation pay, etc.) That is, I will grant, not an insignificant amount of money, but that is as it needs to be if we expect to keep our experienced men and women from mustering out and seeking jobs in the private sector.
In any case, the Ministry anticipates a cost per annum of roughly 750,000,000 ducats for re-enlistment bonuses (2.25 billion per term), all of which is money freed up by abolishing conscription.
I have finalized my ship building relief and stimulation bill. My initial bill was designed to offer low interest loans and tax breaks to used for the specific purpose of modernization and retraining of the work force. However, upon a deeper investigation into the affairs of Marticon (now known as OurTime), that proved to be an ineffective solution in and of itself. Here's a copy of a report my staff provided.
So I determined we would have to help relieve OurTime of the burden of it's debt in order for it to have any chance to succeed. This is not a bailout of a failing industry that is no longer competitive. As this report, published in Term VI will show, the industry has the potential to be a major factor in the Eutopian economy. Years of overregulation, government mismanagement, and even corruption have led to the current situation. Ship building can become a vital industry in Eutopia, but its going to need a push in the right direction. We have a relatively cheap labor force, an educated labor force, and an ideal location. My redesigned bill is also set up to potentially attract new ship building firms. Competition will only serve to increase efficiency and production methods.
So I introduce to you, the OurTime Relief & Ship Building Stimulation Act.
So I determined we would have to help relieve OurTime of the burden of it's debt in order for it to have any chance to succeed. This is not a bailout of a failing industry that is no longer competitive. As this report, published in Term VI will show, the industry has the potential to be a major factor in the Eutopian economy. Years of overregulation, government mismanagement, and even corruption have led to the current situation. Ship building can become a vital industry in Eutopia, but its going to need a push in the right direction. We have a relatively cheap labor force, an educated labor force, and an ideal location. My redesigned bill is also set up to potentially attract new ship building firms. Competition will only serve to increase efficiency and production methods.
So I introduce to you, the OurTime Relief & Ship Building Stimulation Act.
Per Langley. There must be something I don't understand. I am very confused. I agree with everything in your proposed Bill. It is a very worthy, comprehensive Bill that should help Marticon, or OurTime, get on its feet. What am I missing?
Josephus
Josephus
Jake smiles a bit.
"Now I'm confused. Your statement seems to indicate you completely agree with my proposal - which can't be true. What am I missing?"
"Now I'm confused. Your statement seems to indicate you completely agree with my proposal - which can't be true. What am I missing?"
"Well, I believe this bill is very good, and I feel that it should be passed as soon as possible, once more MGAs have had a chance to comment on it."
Would either of you gentlemen care to second my bill, so it can quickly move to a vote once discussion is complete?
Mr. Langley, I have a question regarding Section II of your OurTime Relief & Ship Building Stimulation Act. The section offers other shipbuidling companies the same benefits as OurTime. Won't that cause a 'crowding out' effect, as companies fund competition with eachother from government grants?
I'd like to put this bill up for discussion as well as renew the VAT Bill discussion.
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Timothy said:
The "crowding out" effect I was referring to was government spending replacing or crowding out private sector spending. In this case, the private sector has shown no interest in investing in ship building companies.
This bill has the potential to introduce competition to the market, but this is a key factor in a capitalist market. Competition forces firms to offer the best possible product at the best possible price, and to operate at maximum efficiency. There is nothing wrong with OurTime competing with another startup firm, if one does develop. It will force them to remain up to date in production methods, quality control, and general operating procedures.
Part of the problems that OurTime now faces are because its predocessor, Marticon, was a government controlled monopoly that was immune to competition in the domestic market, and was overregulated to compete internationally. We have removed the stiffling regulations, and now we hope to introduce competition while alievating the burden of debt create by decades of mismanagement.
On the RUBB Reform Bill, I'd be interested to here your reasoning behind these changes. Your method of reform seems to be to slash benefits for budgetary purposes, but you don't consider both the social and economic impacts of it. My curiousisty is why do you feel current benefits and the overall structure are too high? I'm saying I'm opposed to adjusting certain aspects of RUBB, but that you need to present a reason why these changes are pressing.
"I see our colleague from the United Eutopian Front has not taken my constructive criticism to heart regarding his drafting of legislation that is... what's the word?... incomplete. Tell me, Per Recyznski, who is 'unable to work'? Is a homemaking mother with two small children 'unable to work'? What about 'disabled'? Is a sufferer from carpal tunnel syndrome, such as myself, 'disabled'? How about 'senior citizens'? When do our citizens become senior? 55? 60? 65?
"So, please, when you tell Per Langley why we need this legislation, please be so kind as to tell me who it actually applies to."
"So, please, when you tell Per Langley why we need this legislation, please be so kind as to tell me who it actually applies to."
"May I remind Per Recyznski that according to the Reconizition Act inhabitans of Tilapia and St. Esperit are UPE Citizens as well and according to your Bill they would be entitled to Wellfare as well.
RUBB reformation is something I campaigned on.
Except this is not it.
Not even worth discussing further. You take a crappy Bill and make it crappier.
Josephus
Except this is not it.
Not even worth discussing further. You take a crappy Bill and make it crappier.
Josephus
"Mr Recyznski, there are so many shortfalls in RUBB2 that I have hardly the time to go through them. What if someone loses their leg, but still works in an office job? They would still be getting welfare.
And what if there is a family with a working 16 year old, but the Parents are unable to work? That would mean they would get no welfare, and would only get the wage of a 16 year old Part-Time worker!
I have to strongly oppose this Bill, Mr Speaker.
And what if there is a family with a working 16 year old, but the Parents are unable to work? That would mean they would get no welfare, and would only get the wage of a 16 year old Part-Time worker!
I have to strongly oppose this Bill, Mr Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I recommend that we dispense with the RUBB reform bill immediately. It is an ill-thought out Bill. For starters, it seeks to reform RUBB, yet talks about Welfare. The minister should know that RUBB deals with Unemployment Benefits and not Welfare, which are two separate issues.
Josephus Sergei
Josephus Sergei
"Well, who could have foreseen this, Mr. Tilly assaulting me instantaneously. How would you prefer I get opinions of things such as this from all the MGAs then, Mr. Tilly? Did not Thomas Jefferson present his first draft of the United States Constitution to the delegates at Philidelphia when it was incomplete? They reviewed it and made corrections to it, but your statements are merely inflammatory and not constructive at all.
As for Mr. Sergei, RUBB was your bill, yet you admit that it was horrible, perhaps you should be less critical of others if you realize this. Mr. Gonzov, I feel, has given me exactly what I wanted: input. While he may be strongly against the bill, he has still given good suggestions for filling loopholes. Thank you."
As for Mr. Sergei, RUBB was your bill, yet you admit that it was horrible, perhaps you should be less critical of others if you realize this. Mr. Gonzov, I feel, has given me exactly what I wanted: input. While he may be strongly against the bill, he has still given good suggestions for filling loopholes. Thank you."
Sterkarm said:
Sir.....RUBB was Mr. Talbott's Bill. In fact, I voted against it and fought against it in the Assembly. You might see my name on it in the Law Gazette, but that's because I was Speaker and had to officially make it law once it passed...
Josephus
"I suppose that explains it," Kazimierz laughed very softly, trying to do anything to get the tension out of him, "I must admit I was very surprised when I saw your name on an anti-socialist bill. Nonetheless, your criticism of my bill is not constructive whatsoever. You merely say it's a 'crappy' bill, you don't even mention one specific problem with it. Perhaps it would be better for Eutopia if you would give a constructive opinion once in a while instead of merely spouting insults at your fellow MGAs."