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"But there has to be some kind of distinction between different people in the 'those who can work' category. I mean, suppose an engineer who has been laid off can't find another job in his field. He still has his skills, so you could say he still has the ability to work, and thus it seems that your plan would grant him no aid. Does your party suggest that he abandon his career and start training to do something else? Or that he should serve fries at a local fast-food restaraunt until a job opportunity in his field opens up?
 

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"If the person can work, then they should work. There is more dignity in flipping burgers than there is living off the dole, and to say otherwise is insulting to people who have such jobs.

"It's a difficult situation, John, no one is denying that. If a trained engineer can't find work as an engineer, then yes, he should take whatever job comes along, including flipping burgers, because he has a responsiblity to himself and his family. And if that job isn't enough to feed his family, then that is when welfare may be appropriate: to help the children.

"Further, with the money we save in welfare, we would establish a robust job training and retraining program. Maybe the engineer can become an accountant, or even - god forbid - a lawyer.

"Our message is simple: work over welfare, but welfare when essential."
 

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"Well, John, it's your show. I don't suppose I could stop you. To be fair, I think he has a point. Coalition government is a very difficult trick; it's failed far more often then it succeeded."
 

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"Yes, coalition government is quite difficult. The NEC didn't even survive the campaign.

But seriously, your party leader can't get off us for envivisoning dictatorship. 'The UEF is now the sole challenger to the UP for the Presidency! There is hope yet for Eutopia.' A better saying might have been "Everytime the UP gets a vote, a kitten dies."

Though I do have to say, he's a clever one, picking up on our secret plan like that. We'd all take part in the democratic process for years, holding the highest positions in our government, then, one day, we'd spring into action and form a totalitarian dictatorship.

Of course, despite our obvious plot to rule the country with an iron fist, your leader says he respects us. We're not fit to lead, and of course diabolically evil, but we're respectable.

He goes on with saying that the 'both right and left will be without representation.' He's right. If only we had some sort of assembly that each party elected representatives to. It would be a general sort of assembly, given that it would represent all parties, not just those in the executive branch. You know, that's not a bad name, General Assembly. We could call it something like that.

And your leader makes a trully dashing finish, saying "I will not change my policies suddenly, as Mr. Al'Aeshir may do if he gains office."

Again, he's laid bare the wickedness of our plot. Amric would hold steadily to his beliefs for years, spending countless dollars of his own money to improve the environment and society of our great nation. Then, after spending several terms in powerful positions of the executive branch, he'd launch his real campaign, which is to sink the island."
 

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"John, Kazimierz Reczynski knows the danger of a one party state. He's lived in one. And while he's made it clear in his latest speech that he doesn't believe the UP intends some great evil for our land, he has a very good point: should the UP gain the Presidency and an absolute majority of six Assembly members, only the untested Senate would stand between them and whatever constitutional amendments they might seek.

"Again, I have to say I do not believe the UP intends to dominate Eutopian politics for all time. It's members have stated, again and again, that the UP was intended as a one-time entity to preserve Eutopia during this difficult time. And I believe that. But best intentions have a way of going sour. People leave, other people, not so well known, without pure intentions, may take power.

"We have not yet tested the checks and balances of the new September Constitution, and now it not the time for it. Eutopia should have a mixed Assembly, one that will require cooperation and consideration, during this difficult period, not a rubber stamp for any party. And that is, I believe, what Kazimierz is saying."
 

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People leave, other people, not so well known, without pure intentions, may take power.

So you're saying Amric might abandon his post, and completely untested, unkown politicians like former President Pierre Talbott or former VP Konstantin Vilms, might take power?

"We have not yet tested the checks and balances of the new September Constitution, and now it not the time for it. Eutopia should have a mixed Assembly, one that will require cooperation and consideration, during this difficult period, not a rubber stamp for any party. And that is, I believe, what Kazimierz is saying."

Yes...cooperation and consideration...like a party with a lot of different alignments in it.
 

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"I'm saying we don't know what might happen in the future. I only have a plan for weather control, not time travel. We have to be careful not to concentrate too much power in too few hands, for on that path lies the potential for disaster. If you want to get specific about it, though, you're right: experienced politicians, like President Langley - who disappeared part-way through his term - or President Glasser - who vanished part-way through his term as speaker - might take over."
 

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"So, John, may I ask you a question? What will the first priority for the UP be if they win this election? What's their first move on the political chessboard? Their Presidential candidate has spoken at volume, and most eloquently, on a number of issues, but which one is the priority out of the starting gate?"
 

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Well, obviously, there's a lot to be done. We've had many discussions about what we should be pushing first. Amric has an opening-gun task for each of the Ministries. Hawkton Tilly, for example, is already drafting a proposal to eliminate the draft. I know Pierre Talbott is carefully looking into possible diplomatic moves reguarding a number of different nations, and Jake Langley is incessantly examining the best way to go about repairing the damage from the hurricane. The first thing we propose to the Assembly will probably be the draft elimination.

Now, on a different matter, Lucien, I've recently noticed that your party's recent statements are somewhat contradictory of each other. First, you say the UP will be unable to pass anything this term because of ideologicall differences. Then you turn around and say that we can pass anything we want if we get a majority in the Assembly in addition the Presidency. The UEF's message is rather incoherent here.
 

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"The UEF is not a monolithical political organization, any more than the UP is. We don't speak with one voice, and we have ideological and philosophical differences. You call it incoherent, I call it multiple viewpoints."
 

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"I disagree with my party leader on this issue. To date, he hasn't fired me over it." Napier smiles. "John, it's getting late, and I'm sure I've bored your audience more than enough. I've also driven and flown all over the island in the campaign. I'm tired. With the polls closing tomorrow, at this point I'd like nothing better than to be home in New Lancaster, in a comfy chair, watching the returns come in. So, any final big questions you want to ask?"
 

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"No, I think I've covered everything. Thanks for being here tonight, Lucien! It's been terrific.

Tune in wednesday for my post-election socialist extravaganza, where I will be interviewing famed socialist leader Josephus Locke Sergei, as well as relative newcomers Charles Johnston and Rodrigo Vasquez.

Good night Eutopia!"
 

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"I didn't have a show on election day. Sure, I could have pretaped something, but no one wanted to see a prepackaged piece like that did they? It would remove the essance of the show!

Fine! I really did it to make a small fortune from the commercials they put on instead. But hey, what are you going to do about it? It's my show!"

O'Floinn suddenly relaxes a bit and leans back.

"But...on a calmer note, my guests should be arriving soon, including my former opponent and ally, famed socialist leader, Josephus Locke Sergei."
 

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Josephus walks in dressed remarkably well in a nice suit, bought specially for this occasion.

Mr. O'floinn. It's a pleasure to be here with you.



Josephus
 

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Well you have to realize that the ESA got off to a late start. And at the time we started, the P4P was still in existence. I was hoping to get some of the votes that would have gone to the P4P, but i don't think we got many of them.

What I believe happened, is that the voters were looking for a strong, stable, government capable of running the country without the usual General Assembly gridlock. As such, they saw that the UP was the only party strong enough to be given that mandate.

Most of the names running on the UP ticket were recognizable names, and I think Eutopians wanted people in power whose names they recognized.

I don't think that it was a slap in the face to the ESA or the UEF. I think this was a one time thing and we will see a much closer GA election next time.


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