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So I noticed that now it lets you Seduce close relatives. I did a test with adding in the Master Seducer trait but the relatives always turn you down. What is the exact logic behind it? Is it an extremely low level of success or how does it work?

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So I noticed that now it lets you Seduce close relatives. I did a test with adding in the Master Seducer trait but the relatives always turn you down. What is the exact logic behind it? Is it an extremely low level of success or how does it work?

thank you
When it comes to seduction and incest, you have a zero percent chance of success if your target is not already amenable to incest. If you do not belong to a religion that is OK with consanguineous marriage, the target must not be very religious (i.e. has to have a lower than a certain amount of zeal) and also has to have a trait that lets them be open to unorthodox and/or taboo sex things. This is also all on top of general heightened requirements for seduction, where the target needs to also be romantically interested in you for you to succeed (generally measured by a combination of personal opinion, certain opinion modifiers, and/or certain traits).
 

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When it comes to seduction and incest, you have a zero percent chance of success if your target is not already amenable to incest. If you do not belong to a religion that is OK with consanguineous marriage, the target must not be very religious (i.e. has to have a lower than a certain amount of zeal) and also has to have a trait that lets them be open to unorthodox and/or taboo sex things. This is also all on top of general heightened requirements for seduction, where the target needs to also be romantically interested in you for you to succeed (generally measured by a combination of personal opinion, certain opinion modifiers, and/or certain traits).
What is/are the feat(s) You're referring to? I suspect lustful, hedonist and maybe homosexual?
 

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What is/are the feat(s) You're referring to? I suspect lustful, hedonist and maybe homosexual?
Code:
emf_willing_to_consider_incest_despite_religion = {
    OR = {
        ai = no # Humans have agency
        AND = {
            NOR = {
                trait = zealous
                ai_zeal = 40
            }
            OR = {
                trait = lustful
                trait = hedonist
                trait = possessed
                trait = lunatic
            }
        }
        AND = {
            NOR = {
                trait = zealous
                ai_zeal = 0
            }
            trait = arbitrary
        }
        has_character_modifier = voice_of_satan
    }
}
 
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