Sectors Freeing All Slaves

[Wizzington]

What is your ethos?

 

[Wizzington]

Try quitting and letting the game update, then your slavery tolerance should be properly set.

 

[Silfae]

I'm having this problem too, as a fanatic xenophobe/spiritualist race with decadent trait, all alien xenos in my sectors are getting constantly freed after the patch.

Already tried re-starting.

 

[Silfae]

Yes, I'm not enslaving my own species, only aliens. The problem is not that I cannot enslave them, is that the Sectors' governments keep freeing them right after I enslave them. Since my species is decadent (and a minority), I need to have alien slaves to make the economy work (also, roleplay).

 

[Silfae]

Removing slavery tolerance from Divine Mandate also means all races with Decadent need to be collectivist -- Xenophobes won't cut it by default.

Yes, but that's just wrong. It removes a lot of possibilities, already it seems weird to me that individualists cannot take alien slaves (of course they shouldn't be able to enslave their own, but not to be barred entirely). A decadent race should not need to be collectivist to enslave xenos (it shouldn't be spiritual either, but that's another matter); the concept of "decadence" in itself is, from what I see, very self-centered, opposed to collectivism.

Anyway, as said above, this is not something that sector AI of the player's empire should do in the first place, neither enslaving nor emancipating. It is the player's decision who gets what treatment; there could be circumstances where a species that usually enslaves populations wants to give special treatment to a particular enemy, or a species that usually doesn't wants to make an example over another.

 

[Silfae]

I'm just as frustrated as you are, but let's try to avoid the hyperbole - collectivist slaver empires are working fine. The specific problem is xeno slavery in xenophobic conquest-oriented empires. You can be Space Marx and enslave the proletariat all you want, you just can't be Space Hitler.

That still remains pretty limiting. You can't be space Roman Empire, you can't be space Spanish Empire, you can't be space Ottoman Empire and so forth for what concerns enslavement policies. The current setup for slavery makes it so either you have it in a 1984-esque "all people are owned by the State" way or not at all.

 

[Silfae]

That is more of a question of the lack of a Centralization mechanic, which could justify and make interesting a lack of control over sectors in general or specific sectors in certain circumstances. A client state that has just been assimilated and turned into a sector, which still has different ethics and possibly a different governor, could just keep going on its own way, funding research rather than mining efforts or keeping a soft stance on slavery, unless the empire becomes centralized enough to strictly impose its policies on all sectors from above.
But that is an entirely different matter, the current setup is just bugged.