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I'm glad you asked.
Let's look at this objectively. I'm not even automatically assuming myself to be Liberal in the following analysis.
As the game draws towards the end, the actions of the government become more telling, as the stakes are much higher than before.
The last election. aedan/Cliges passed a Liberal policy. The second to last liberal policy. The chance of one of them, or both of them being fascists is minimal due to multiple reasons. If anyone requires an explanation on that I will write it in a separate post.
If we assume aedan/Cliges to be Liberal, there would be 3 Fascists and 4 Liberals amongst Barkades, RB33, Hazbot, Nickjbor, Ike, Teep and yours truly. This group would be refered to as the U7, standing for Unknown7.
On the very off chance that roplox happens to be Liberal, the odds would be worse, with 4 Fascists and 3 Liberals amongst the U7.
As the game draws to the end, the votes become more telling, as the stakes are much higher than before. Let's look at the votes for the last election, and election 9 (the Ike-Roplox ticket). The first governent (aedan-Cliges) is clean. The second 100% contains at least one Fascist. Let's see how the U7 has voted, shall we?
The aedan-Cliges government is clean, and if it passes could very well bring liberals to the brink of victory. Knowing Fascists would vote this down, some Liberals might also vote this down, but a knowning Fascist wouldn't vote Ja! here. So those in U7 who voted Ja! are not knowing fascists.
That'd be Hazbot, Nick, and Teep.
Election 9 contains at least one Fascist. The score that that point was 3-2 towards the Liberals. A Liberal policy passing would push the score to 4-2, and give Liberals the chance of victory before reaching the 3rd Fascist policy. The knowing fascists are hard-pressed to gain a victory there, and so they would vote Ja!. Some Liberals might vote Ja! too, but a knowing Fascist wouldn't vote this down. So those in U7 who voted this down are not knowning fascists.
That'd be barkades, sjblue and Nick.
Combining both results, we have Hazbot, Nick, Teep, sjblue and barkades who are not knowing Fascists. Due to there having to be a maximum of 4 Liberals in the U7, one of these five is Hitler, the clueless Fascist. That would leave RB33, and Emperor Ike, as the other Fascists.
Which would actually explain why Emperor Ike is defending RB33 so hard. Fascists getting desperate.
The off chance that roplox is Liberal doesn't change much, apart from making Emperor Ike a definite Fascist, and there'd be 3 other Fascists among the (U7 minus Ike) group. RB33 would be even more suspicious there, as again, he doesn't belong to either "I'm not a knowing fascist" group.
RB33 forgetting that he scanned Hazbot is just further validation. A Liberal would not forget this vital piece of information so easily.
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Why do Nick and Teep get to be liberals but not me.
I'm a sad liberal.
So your evidence based on RBs action is actually your analyzes of the elections and chances of who might or might not be fascist. Because they voted a certain way. Not surprising that everybody else is accused of being a fascist except you and your new allies you need. Voting analyzes from someone who has only voted Ja for himself with a vague "I only trust myself and now these two guys" explanation doesn't really stand on solid ground when everyone is accused of being fascists. Also it's not surprise that I'm branded as a fascist too. I guess that was only inevitable since I started calling you out on BS name lists and the fact that RB is fascist simply because he forgot that he scanned Hazbot. People forget things all the time, that is what makes them human. And not to mention that many of us take part on multiple WW games too simultaneously.
Since your analyze is so "solid" it is pretty clear that RB forgetting Hazbot has nothing to do with this. You would have still called him as a fascist and demand people to vote him down. Why? Because you want to be the one be part of the government to end the game. Whatever it is a fascist win or liberal win. But you want to be part of it. You want to be either the president or the chancellor who makes sure that whatever side you are on wins. Since Hazbot is liberal for a fascist policy to pass it would require that RB draws 2 Fascist 1 Liberal or 3 Fascist and is Fascist. If a fascist policy passes and RB is a fascist he will use the execution power to remove 1 liberal making it 4-3 for liberal majority. But the 2 next candidates are liberals so they would win no matter what. And the fascist would only win if 1 of the next candidates is a fascist.
But....
It's pretty clear that you wouldn't vote for anyone else other than yourself. It's clear from your voting history as well as your arrogant attitude. You think you are better than the rest and that makes you think you do not need to answer the questions but you can keep calling people dull. You are effectively suffering from NPD. And now when you are being called out you start on "kissing up" on people who have been the most silent in the whole game while making other people be fascist with analyzes that are based solely on assumptions of assumptions. Saying that you trust them and they should trust you. Who else did this? Roplox who ended up in a ditch, covered in petrol, on fire. So, that’s fun.
So since you are so eager to call everyone else fascist, let us consider the fact that you are one of them. I mean making everyone else think you and hitler are liberals while making everyone else put in the 3 fascist policies is exactly how a good fascist would play the game. And as you say the game is in the closing stages and both sides just need a one successful election to win. You've begun to fit the mold of a good fascist player too.
The fascist don't really have that much to loose at this point if they have convinced the liberals that they aren't fascists. Since the identity of Hitler has been kept secret and only one fascist has been exposed. The fascist are still free to do as they please. And to be honest it would be in their best interest to try and get tickets voted down if it is not their hitler being voted as chancellor as well as now officially marking people as fascist.
Aedan and Cliges probably are liberals. Thus a fascist would try to be friendly towards them and gain their trust so they would vote for hitler. The fact that if RB is or isn't fascist isn't really relevant since we have a higher chance sjblue forcing the election of hitler after he gets liberals to vote this ticket down.
So I guess it comes down to whatever people are willing to risk another fascist policy being passed or the high possibility that hitler is going to be the chancellor after this ticket fails.
Since your analyze is so "solid" it is pretty clear that RB forgetting Hazbot has nothing to do with this. You would have still called him as a fascist and demand people to vote him down. Why? Because you want to be the one be part of the government to end the game. Whatever it is a fascist win or liberal win. But you want to be part of it. You want to be either the president or the chancellor who makes sure that whatever side you are on wins. Since Hazbot is liberal for a fascist policy to pass it would require that RB draws 2 Fascist 1 Liberal or 3 Fascist and is Fascist. If a fascist policy passes and RB is a fascist he will use the execution power to remove 1 liberal making it 4-3 for liberal majority. But the 2 next candidates are liberals so they would win no matter what. And the fascist would only win if 1 of the next candidates is a fascist.
But....
It's pretty clear that you wouldn't vote for anyone else other than yourself. It's clear from your voting history as well as your arrogant attitude. You think you are better than the rest and that makes you think you do not need to answer the questions but you can keep calling people dull. You are effectively suffering from NPD. And now when you are being called out you start on "kissing up" on people who have been the most silent in the whole game while making other people be fascist with analyzes that are based solely on assumptions of assumptions. Saying that you trust them and they should trust you. Who else did this? Roplox who ended up in a ditch, covered in petrol, on fire. So, that’s fun.
So since you are so eager to call everyone else fascist, let us consider the fact that you are one of them. I mean making everyone else think you and hitler are liberals while making everyone else put in the 3 fascist policies is exactly how a good fascist would play the game. And as you say the game is in the closing stages and both sides just need a one successful election to win. You've begun to fit the mold of a good fascist player too.
The fascist don't really have that much to loose at this point if they have convinced the liberals that they aren't fascists. Since the identity of Hitler has been kept secret and only one fascist has been exposed. The fascist are still free to do as they please. And to be honest it would be in their best interest to try and get tickets voted down if it is not their hitler being voted as chancellor as well as now officially marking people as fascist.
Aedan and Cliges probably are liberals. Thus a fascist would try to be friendly towards them and gain their trust so they would vote for hitler. The fact that if RB is or isn't fascist isn't really relevant since we have a higher chance sjblue forcing the election of hitler after he gets liberals to vote this ticket down.
So I guess it comes down to whatever people are willing to risk another fascist policy being passed or the high possibility that hitler is going to be the chancellor after this ticket fails.
How do you know this?
My analysis is solid and doesn't assume anything apart from
1. aedan/cliges being Liberal; and
2. knowing fascists would vote for their own interests at critical elections of the game, if it doesn't put them directly in a bad spotlight.
It doesn't even assume myself to be Liberal.
So try coming up with sound, logical counter-arguments to my analysis instead of this pointless posturing and grandstanding.
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Does it really have to be in the analysis? That you claim to be a liberal? No it doesn't. Since at this point you are just trying to hide the fact that you claim to be liberal and you've added your name to your analysis after I called you out on that and now you try to make it look like that you are not claiming to be liberal.
Oh and according to your analysis I'm pretty much a liberal. Except now in your recent analysis I'm actually a fascist. That analysis happened after I accused you of not having solid evidence of RB actually being a fascist and that I didn't choose you as the candidate in the special elections. Coincidence? I dont think so. You are simply trying to blacken my name.
A true liberal wouldn't have to constantly remind others how liberal he is.
The same reason I know that you are actually lying since you keep editing your posts after you get called out. There was no mentions in your posts about yourself and now you've added your name there. Also Hazbot has been cleared as a liberal just like Barkades has been. Also you've replaced Hazbots name with your own. Obviously trying to cover your own fascist tracks. So chances of Hazbot and barkades actually being fascists are 50-50.
Your edits make it clear that your word cannot be trusted. Since the moment your lies come out you go and "correct" them in your posts to cover your tracks. The thing is that you don't correct typos but you "correct" things that people call out.
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You're just fascists both of you, me and Hazbot as true liberals will lead the path to a greater liberal Germany.
You can lie to yourself and your minions, you can claim that you haven't a qualm, but you never can run from nor hide what you've done from the eyes, the very eyes of Liberty.
So all in all your analysis is just a ruse to keep your own fascist intentions secret.
If this ticket fails and the janke one is a success then it is game over for the liberals. We lose the game because we believe the fascist lies.
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More pointless grandstanding and appeal to emotions without logically sound rebuttals to my analysis. Case made.
I can't be bothered to do it, fascist or not. Trust in my liberal policies, because that is what I am, a liberal.
So simply because I don't come up with a fake analysis and accusations for everyone else except myself to be fascist all my arguments are considered to be illogical to you? Exactly what a fascist would do in a situation where he is caught in lies. But since you've begun to believe your own lies I dont even bother with you anymore. You are a lost cause.
You should really do this during one evening. It's really a fast-paced game.
Now regarding that. Check out this thread.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/secret-hitler-and-tabletop-simulator.902890
I'm addicted to another game right now. Hence why my postcount has dropped from 60 a day on OT to like .2
Benedict H.C. Hahnel (Barkardes): Nein!
Leopold Böhnisch Mauss (aedan777): Nein!
Ferdinand Lehr von Mannheim (RB33): Ja!
Oliver Janke (sjblue): Nein!
Christoph van Houten (Hazbot): Ja!
Steffen Stadtbäumer (Roplox): RIP
Ludz Neidermeyer Pabst (Nickjbor): Ja!
Zacharias von Katterfeld (Cliges): Nein!
Hans Kippenberger (Emperor Ike): Ja!
Konrad Vincent Dreifuss (Teep): Ja!
The Mannheim/Houten ticket is elected with 55% of the vote.
Now, this is the part where I should be handing out policies, but an odd thing happened in that election. Namely, Hitler was elected chancellor.
Yep, Hazbot was the Secret Hitler. The Fascists have won this game. Congrats, guys. You can out yourselves if you want, otherwise you can hide in secrecy until I out you like the ruthless GM I am in the epilogue.
Speaking of, if anyone wants anything special to happen to them in the epilogue, I can probably make it happen. My own comments and questions about the game will also follow in a future post.
EDIT: To go into a little more specifics, the epilogue will be about what happens after the fascists are elected into power. For the Liberals, this will most likely mean that you die, leave the country, or turn traitor to your ideology like a coward. For the Fascists, this will probably mean that you get installed into positions of immense power and influence in your new country. For the secret leader himself, it means you become the evil dictator of Germany, of course. These are not the only options, of course, but please keep to reality if you decide to pick your characters fate.
FWI, for the record, roplox was a liberal
Leopold Böhnisch Mauss (aedan777): Nein!
Ferdinand Lehr von Mannheim (RB33): Ja!
Oliver Janke (sjblue): Nein!
Christoph van Houten (Hazbot): Ja!
Steffen Stadtbäumer (Roplox): RIP
Ludz Neidermeyer Pabst (Nickjbor): Ja!
Zacharias von Katterfeld (Cliges): Nein!
Hans Kippenberger (Emperor Ike): Ja!
Konrad Vincent Dreifuss (Teep): Ja!
The Mannheim/Houten ticket is elected with 55% of the vote.
Now, this is the part where I should be handing out policies, but an odd thing happened in that election. Namely, Hitler was elected chancellor.
Yep, Hazbot was the Secret Hitler. The Fascists have won this game. Congrats, guys. You can out yourselves if you want, otherwise you can hide in secrecy until I out you like the ruthless GM I am in the epilogue.
Speaking of, if anyone wants anything special to happen to them in the epilogue, I can probably make it happen. My own comments and questions about the game will also follow in a future post.
EDIT: To go into a little more specifics, the epilogue will be about what happens after the fascists are elected into power. For the Liberals, this will most likely mean that you die, leave the country, or turn traitor to your ideology like a coward. For the Fascists, this will probably mean that you get installed into positions of immense power and influence in your new country. For the secret leader himself, it means you become the evil dictator of Germany, of course. These are not the only options, of course, but please keep to reality if you decide to pick your characters fate.
FWI, for the record, roplox was a liberal
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What did I say, you got liberalism!
I actually do have a question for you. You got a lot of heat for a comment you made about halfway in. Now, as both you and I know now, you were in fact a fascist, so was that slip deliberate or accidental?