Secret Hitler II

[sjblue]

Actually looking back, since Cliges isn't Hitler, and so would have less reason (apart from denying aedan the use of the Execution power) to disguise himself at this stage of the game, the aedan-Liberal/Cliges-Fascist scenario is just as (un)likely as aedan-F/cliges-F and aedan-F/Cliges-L.

Which means aedan and cliges are pretty much equally trustworthy.

As for the rest of the players, I think I can trust Nickbjor, Hazbot, and then maybe RB33.

 

[Goodfortune99]

Actually looking back, since Cliges isn't Hitler, and so would have less reason (apart from denying aedan the use of the Execution power) to disguise himself at this stage of the game, the aedan-Liberal/Cliges-Fascist scenario is just as (un)likely as aedan-F/cliges-F and aedan-F/Cliges-L.

Which means aedan and cliges are pretty much equally trustworthy.

As for the rest of the players, I think I can trust Nickbjor, Hazbot, and then maybe RB33.

Why is Cliges not Hitler?

 

[Emperor Ike]

Why is Cliges not Hitler?

Because game would have ended if he was

 

[Goodfortune99]

Because game would have ended if he was

Right...

 

[RB33]

Since I haven't got a lot of responses, I will pick Hazbot as my chancellor, he have seemed quiet.

 

[sjblue]

As for the rest of the players, I think I can trust Nickbjor, Hazbot, and then maybe RB33.

This is a bald-faced lie by the way. I don't trust RB33 at all.

If both of aedan and Cliges do happen to be Liberals then, we have 1 Hitler, 2 non-Hitler Fascists and 3 Liberals amongst Barkades, RB33, Emperor Ike, Nickbjor, Teep and Hazbot.

Of these, the most likely Fascist is undoubtedly RB33, and he's an unlikely Hitler.

So, I said that I trusted him, and namedropped 2 possible Hitlers as also trustworthy, to entice him to nominate Hitler as a desperate, last-ditch effort for Fascists to win.

And I think that's what he did. Hazbot could very well be Hitler, or liberal. It doesn't matter though.

In any case, Liberals should vote this down since RB33 is a high-probability fascist.

 

[Emperor Ike]

This is a bald-faced lie by the way. I don't trust RB33 at all.

If both of aedan and Cliges do happen to be Liberals then, we have 1 Hitler, 2 non-Hitler Fascists and 3 Liberals amongst Barkades, RB33, Emperor Ike, Nickbjor, Teep and Hazbot.

Of these, the most likely Fascist is undoubtedly RB33, and he's an unlikely Hitler.

So, I said that I trusted him, and namedropped 2 possible Hitlers as also trustworthy, to entice him to nominate Hitler as a desperate, last-ditch effort for Fascists to win.

And I think that's what he did. Hazbot could very well be Hitler, or liberal. It doesn't matter though.

In any case, Liberals should vote this down since RB33 is a high-probability fascist.

Or you are trying to prevent the final liberal policy being passed so you can choose your Hitler for the next election since you are the next after this. That could also be the case since the fascist can now win just by getting the Hitler elected as chancellor. Roplox wasn't the Hitler, Cliges wasn't Hitler, you weren't Hitler but you are the next after RB so what proof there is that who ever you choose isn't going to actually be the Hitler? We all know who you are going to choose. Also sacrificing one fascist for good of the Hitler wouldn't actually be that strange.

You are also pretty eager to always come up with things against any other candidate and claiming them to be untrustworthy. You coming up with hasty accusations just before your turn to be the presidential candidate and the liberals being one policy away from winning the game seems more of an last ditch effort to achieve Fascist victory than whatever RB33 is doing.

You said it yourself Hazbot could very well be Hitler or a liberal. Everyone who hasn't been chancellor after the 3rd Fascist policy could very well be a liberal or a Hitler. The only real thing that makes RB questionable is that he made jokes about being an Fascist and Hitler.Surely he knows that after doing so he would never get elected again. So why do it? As a liberal it makes no sense to do such thing as he could easily be executed as an fascist. As a fascist it doesn't really make sense if you want to elect your Hitler. Unless he acts as a scapegoat so the rest of the fascist can blame him and whoever he chooses as being fascist and hitler so the real Hitler can be elected under the guise of being trustworthy liberal. Now that is the only sound reason why RB made his jokes and that would make Hazbot less likely to be Hitler since if RB is the scapegoat.

That would also mean that you are a fascist and whoever you choose would be the Hitler. Because if you claim that Hazbot is a Hitler and RB is a fascist then you wouldn't choose Hazbot as your candidate and it has to be Barkades or Nick who you are going to choose. Names that also frequent your lists of names you trust or don't trust.

We were all ready fooled by one fascist who claimed to be liberal, what prevents us being fooled again? At this point everything is possible. I'm not saying you are fascist but your actions are bit on the suspicious side.

Right...

And also a fascist knows who Hitler is....

 

[RB33]

The only real thing that makes RB questionable is that he made jokes about being an Fascist and Hitler.Surely he knows that after doing so he would never get elected again.

You just can't take a joke. If would have said it regardless of me being a liberal or fascist.

 

[Goodfortune99]

Or you are trying to prevent the final liberal policy being passed so you can choose your Hitler for the next election since you are the next after this. That could also be the case since the fascist can now win just by getting the Hitler elected as chancellor. Roplox wasn't the Hitler, Cliges wasn't Hitler, you weren't Hitler but you are the next after RB so what proof there is that who ever you choose isn't going to actually be the Hitler? We all know who you are going to choose. Also sacrificing one fascist for good of the Hitler wouldn't actually be that strange.

You are also pretty eager to always come up with things against any other candidate and claiming them to be untrustworthy. You coming up with hasty accusations just before your turn to be the presidential candidate and the liberals being one policy away from winning the game seems more of an last ditch effort to achieve Fascist victory than whatever RB33 is doing.

You said it yourself Hazbot could very well be Hitler or a liberal. Everyone who hasn't been chancellor after the 3rd Fascist policy could very well be a liberal or a Hitler. The only real thing that makes RB questionable is that he made jokes about being an Fascist and Hitler.Surely he knows that after doing so he would never get elected again. So why do it? As a liberal it makes no sense to do such thing as he could easily be executed as an fascist. As a fascist it doesn't really make sense if you want to elect your Hitler. Unless he acts as a scapegoat so the rest of the fascist can blame him and whoever he chooses as being fascist and hitler so the real Hitler can be elected under the guise of being trustworthy liberal. Now that is the only sound reason why RB made his jokes and that would make Hazbot less likely to be Hitler since if RB is the scapegoat.

That would also mean that you are a fascist and whoever you choose would be the Hitler. Because if you claim that Hazbot is a Hitler and RB is a fascist then you wouldn't choose Hazbot as your candidate and it has to be Barkades or Nick who you are going to choose. Names that also frequent your lists of names you trust or don't trust.

We were all ready fooled by one fascist who claimed to be liberal, what prevents us being fooled again? At this point everything is possible. I'm not saying you are fascist but your actions are bit on the suspicious side.



And also a fascist knows who Hitler is....

Tell me why a fascist would want to execute his fellow fascist? Why would sjblue want to execute me if he was a fascist? (As if I were a fascist )

 

[Canadian_95_RTS]

Tell me why a fascist would want to execute his fellow fascist? Why would sjblue want to execute me if he was a fascist? (As if I were a fascist )

Hey, I told you once already. Don't make me tell you twice.

 

[Goodfortune99]

Hey, I told you once already. Don't make me tell you twice.

Huh? I am just telling the obvious... It's not like I am divulging all the secret zombie nazi documents from my grave. Besides, I were not supposed to hint at anything secret or such regarding myself.

 

[sjblue]

We all know who you are going to choose.

Really? Whom?

You are also pretty eager to always come up with things against any other candidate and claiming them to be untrustworthy. You coming up with hasty accusations just before your turn to be the presidential candidate and the liberals being one policy away from winning the game seems more of an last ditch effort to achieve Fascist victory than whatever RB33 is doing.

Nope, not hasty at all. RB33 has been the at the top of my Fascist list for some time.

The only real thing that makes RB questionable is that he made jokes about being an Fascist and Hitler.

He made a joke about being Fascist? So what? That doesn't mean anything at all, and it didn't even enter my radar.
If you think RB33 isn't very Fascist like, then you're either being deliberately obtuse or you haven't been paying attention to the game.

Now that is the only sound reason why RB made his jokes and that would make Hazbot less likely to be Hitler since if RB is the scapegoat.

Stop talking about the jokes, my suspicion of RB33 has nothing to do with jokes... and hopefully you don't base your deductions on silly jokes either.

Names that also frequent your lists of names you trust or don't trust.

Like I said the only ones I trust are myself, and maybe aedan and Cliges. The other names are just BS to get RB33 to nominate a chancellor.

We were all ready fooled by one fascist who claimed to be liberal,

I mean.. you were, I wasn't

Who am I going to choose, Ike?

 

[Canadian_95_RTS]

Huh? I am just telling the obvious... It's not like I am divulging all the secret zombie nazi documents from my grave. Besides, I were not supposed to hint at anything secret or such regarding myself.

All the same, you are actively guiding the actions of currently living players. That is not okay.

 

[sjblue]

Since I haven't got a lot of responses, I will pick Hazbot as my chancellor, he have seemed quiet.

By the way RB33, why didn't you choose Hazbot immediately?
You know that he's Liberal. You saw his card.
A Liberal, at this dangerous juncture, would immediately latch on to the only person whom he can trust with 100% certainty to be Liberal and to not be Hitler.

You, on the other hand, have waited for some time, seemingly unsure about your choice; and when you did make it, the only reason you gave was "he have seemed quiet".

What, Did you forget that you saw his card, since you know everyone's role already as a fascist? A Liberal would not so easily forget to mention the only piece of 100% accurate information he knows; and a Liberal would base his decision on that info and almost entirely that info, since that's all he knows.

 

[RB33]

By the way RB33, why didn't you choose Hazbot immediately?
You know that he's Liberal. You saw his card.
A Liberal, at this dangerous juncture, would immediately latch on to the only person whom he can trust with 100% certainty to be Liberal and to not be Hitler.

You, on the other hand, have waited for some time, seemingly unsure about your choice; and when you did make it, the only reason you gave was "he have seemed quiet".

What, Did you forget that you saw his card, since you know everyone's role already as a fascist? A Liberal would not so easily forget to mention the only piece of 100% accurate information he knows; and a Liberal would base his decision on that info and almost entirely that info, since that's all he knows.

You know, I actually forgot that. Still I would have wanted your opinion anyway.

 

[Emperor Ike]

Who am I going to choose, Ike?

How about you learn how to multi quote a post properly? Also you seem to trust Aedan & Cliges so much that you've voted against them every time except the time they nominated you as a chancellor.

I highly think that the whole list of yours is bunch of names you just decided to blame to keep people away from your probably fascist friends and the names on your list don't have no evidence backing them what so ever. As you said yourself the names are just BS.

What actually makes RB a fascist? What in his actions have made him a fascist? His voting record? The fact that he didn't choose Hazbot straight away even though he had cleared him as a liberal?

Your suspicions about others are bunch of BS and it is clear if I name the person that you are going to choose to run with you will just change it. And if I don't name the person and then you choose him and I say that I knew it, then you are just going to say "Of course you would say that"

The thing is that Roplox was accusing everyone of being a fascist from the beginning. Just like he accused me RB and Nick straight away without listening to their side first. Everyone else chose to wait before launching accusations. Accusing someone of fascism usually means there is a chance that you are one yourself. Which in the case of Roplox turned out to be true.

And don't try to play the "I knew Roplox was a fascist from the beginning as I marked him suspicious after 4th election" You chose him as a chancellor. You ran with him and only after he was revealed as a fascist you brought forth your suspicions on him. As you said yourself the last patch of names is total BS. So your previous list of names have been BS too with 90% of chance. Also previously you posted a list of names but then actually edited it out quickly and only Nick had time to see it.

All you have ever done has been proposing yourself as a chancellor and coming up with list of names that can now be ruled as BS.

So once again what makes RB a fascist? Also if RB is a fascist on your BS list it is clear that it doesn't really matter whom RB would have chosen unless the chosen person would have been you. You vote nein in every ticket that hasn't got you running. All you care about is to be able to be the one in power.

So RB is a fascist because he wanted to hear peoples opinion in the nomination process? Oh and I guess you accuse him because he didn't choose you.

You just can't take a joke. If would have said it regardless of me being a liberal or fascist.

Why? Why would you joke on something like that?

 

[RB33]

Why? Why would you joke on something like that?

To make the fascists confused, to think i'm one of them.

 

[Emperor Ike]

To make the fascists confused, to think i'm one of them.

But doesn't the fascist know who is with them?

You were just bored weren't you? Or drunk?

 

[RB33]

But doesn't the fascist know who is with them?

You were just bored weren't you? Or drunk?

Just hoping for the fascists to be drunk to not remember who each other were.

 

[Emperor Ike]

Well that actually makes sense why sjblue would try to say your joke doesn't mean anything, he could be a fascist himself. And he knows that you are not a fascist but he cant claim that is the reason why you are on his "list" so he has to deny the fact that your joke would mean anything to him so he can say you are a fascist. So that once again he could be in power.