Second Sino-Japanese War Scenario

[Spitfire_Pilot]

Im sure this has never been done before. I might make a Second Sino Japanese war scenario (for all who dont know what it is, its the war between china and Japan) Including all events (Marco Polo Bridge, Chinese surrender, Japanese beg for peace etc. So if anyone is willing to help it will help me out a lot ! thanks.

 

[Kami888]

Well since historically it lasted for 8 years...
That's a damn long scenario you're gonna have there.

 

[Lt Hilsdorf]

I might be able to help Spitfire, assuming I won't be doing too much of the work (only cause I have a few other things I'm still working on).

 

[Van der Gent]

I could help a bit

 

[Spitfire_Pilot]

ok thanks guys. Ill have to make the overall map for the scenario but ill need some help with the events, since im not goood at making them. And victory and defeats might also be a problem to , im gonna need someone to make it possile to acually win the scenario. Playable nation will be-

Nationalist China

Communist China

Japan

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Nations involved in the scenario but not acually playable

Guangxi Clique,

Shanxi

United Kingdom (Hong Kong)

Xiebie San Ma

 

[unmerged(53315)]

Well here are just some suggestion. Hope it will be useful.

I don't think communist china should be playable because during the war they weren't really fighting the Japs at all. Their AI should be very passive. At the middle of the war, the com china should turn against the nat china. If possible, their AI should be aggressive against the nat china but passive against the Jap. Because the Com China actually fight very few significant battle against the Japs and always avoid battle with the Jap. most of them fight as partian. Basically Nat China did all the work.

Also when playing the Nat China, it can assume military control over the warlords even 'Xiebie San Ma'. Because during the war none of the warlord allow the Nat China to control their armies and there are no united command in the united front. That's the reason why the war drag on for so long. Whenever the Japs attack the warlords, they retreat to keep their armies intact so that they can challenge Chang Kai Sek after the war.

There shouldn't be any military access at the beginning, not until later on. Especially for Com China and Nat China. They cannot cross each other border at any time.

Also if possible the Jap cannot annex any on the warlords and the warlords army can still survive in Nat China Territories. But they cannot be control by the Nat China to show the disunity between the united front.

Also there should be an event which provide the Nat China with the eight German trained Divisions and an event which withdraw all german advisors from China.

I hope these ideas would be helpful to u.

PS u can ask Duke of Boom for help. He's already done some of the events for Consolidated China Improvement Pack

 

[mib]

Is there really a need for this scenario? I mean the GC starts in 1936, and ends in 1947. The Second Sino-Japanese War was from 1937-1945.

If you're going to figure in the entire CBI theatre, you would have to add in Southeast and parts of South Asia as well.

 

[Spitfire_Pilot]

well i wouldn't consider South East Asia in the Sino Japanese war so ill probably leave that area out. But i do plan to add all of Nationalist China, Guangxi Clique, Xibei San Ma, and Communist China. In other words all of Eastern China, and Central China, and a bit of Southern China, and maybe Manchuria

 

[mib]

What about the Burma campaign?

 

[unmerged(11633)]

Yes, what about X force and Y force? The Japanese cutting the railway from French Indochina?

(damn, should be writing my AAR)

 

[Spitfire_Pilot]

well im not going to include every battle and what-not just the main campaign

 

[mib]

well im not going to include every battle and what-not just the main campaign

The Burma campaign was a MAJOR campaign.

 

[Spitfire_Pilot]

lol fine ! then ill add Burma to the scenario map.

 

[unmerged(46515)]

I think MiB means to create an actual scenario on the Burma Campaign. Then again maybe I'm reading it wrong.

Though I do think the second Sino-Japanese is way too broad a conflict to cover. Something more focused would be better I think. If you are interested in more aisan related conflicts, I am sure there could be other things you could do. Though I can't think of anything specific off the top of my head.

 

[Spitfire_Pilot]

well as I aready said im not planning to cover ever part of the war. The main battles are the ones ill focus on and the main conquests, or alternate history.

 

[CCA]

The chances of getting germanny rto recognize manchuko should depend on who's winning?

 

[mib]

That's what we're doing in CCIP lol.

 

[Spitfire_Pilot]

well it would be nice to be able to use some of the events in the CCIP. Do you know where i could contact someone to allow me to use these ?

 

[mib]

Talk to Duke_of_BOOM!