[SD44] New patch 79074

[Uncle_Joe]

The changes seem somewhat minimalistic (for better or worse). They look like steps in the right direction though.

I was still sort of hoping for something to shake up infantry combat because right now it seems pretty far from 'realistic' (for WW2...casualty rates seem closer to WW1). Even just removal of the 'moving' penalty could have been worth a try.

It’s also interesting that the divisions that were widely touted as the ‘best’ and ‘worst’ received minimal or no direct adjustments (15th and 91st). Again, not necessarily ‘bad’ and other circumstance might have changed which address some of the problems but as above, I was hoping for something a bit more concrete.

In any case, these changes look positive and I guess it’s time to see how they affect the overall gameplay.

 

[captinjoehenry]

What's the reason for this change?

• FW-190's speed reduced from 700 to 600, agility increased from Medium to Good, price reduced from 160 to 150

Because as it is Germany no longer has a high speed interceptor which is a real pain with how fast some of the multirole and bombers go more or less preventing you from being able to intercept them. As it was having the ME 109 as an agility fighter and the FW 190 as an interceptor was pretty great but now they are both fairly low speed turn fighters.

 

[Max_Damage]

I ve been reading carefully and i have noticed that 15th scottish humber mk3 still has an AP 3 autocannon. contrary to:
-Humber Mk.3's BESA 15mm MG AP removed, suppression increased to be slightly higher than .50 cal

Owwwww why do you set american 76 mm to 6 acc? It used to be so well balanced with pak40. It had extra range but suffered an acc penalty. Now american m1 is just better out of the two. Disapprove of this change.

Also, still not enough nerf to avre armor. 15 is so much for this tank irl.

PS RIP bef panther 70% hit chance with the 1st shot. Now "only 58%".

 

[FatRefrigerator]

I ve been reading carefully and i have noticed that 15th scottish humber mk3 still has an AP 3 autocannon. contrary to:
-Humber Mk.3's BESA 15mm MG AP removed, suppression increased to be slightly higher than .50 cal

Owwwww why do you set american 76 mm to 6 acc? It used to be so well balanced with pak40. It had extra range but suffered an acc penalty. Now american m1 is just better out of the two. Disapprove of this change.

Also, still not enough nerf to avre armor. 15 is so much for this tank irl.

PS RIP bef panther 70% hit chance with the 1st shot. Now "only 58%".

Because the Axis have Panthers, Tigers, KTs, Pak43's to kill shermans. The Allies have a 13AP tin can to kill with.

 

[Catra]

They are not faster but slower. Tanks would turn almost instantly making you fire at the front armour regardless of your positioning. For Ex. a 2 star Panther with bonus to ROF and aimtime would kill any tank trying to surprise it making flanking all but useless(it would 180 and kill a tank trying to get a rear shot before said tank could fire).

If this change really only affects the PIV J/Panther D then I dont see it making much of a difference overall especially if they still have huge vet.

It is turret turn speed not tank turn speed.

 

[FatRefrigerator]

It is turret turn speed not tank turn speed.

Well both need a decrease

 

[EUG_MadMat]

I ve been reading carefully and i have noticed that 15th scottish humber mk3 still has an AP 3 autocannon. contrary to:
-Humber Mk.3's BESA 15mm MG AP removed, suppression increased to be slightly higher than .50 cal

That's why we've clearly stated that the lines in red missed the patch and will be implemented ASAP.

 

[Spielführer]

I do not understand some nerfs, but nvm...

 

[FatRefrigerator]

I do not understand some nerfs, but nvm...

Which ones?

 

[captinjoehenry]

With the changes to the FW 190 it is no longer possible to intercept rocket P-38s as they go just as fast as FW 190s meaning unless they are coming well over my side of the map FW 190s will not be able to intercept them.

 

[EUG_MadMat]

Omission added to the OP:

• Panther D's frontal armor increased from 12 to 13
• Panther G's frontal armor increased from 13 to 14

 

[Max_Damage]

Very nice changes for Panther D, this tank used to be hopeless and now its a panther with 6 acc and some ok armor.

 

[Grimreapo]

The Phase A Grille may seem to be good but like the IG18/33 the range is gimped next to other guns of class, so keep the price but buff the range or reduce the cost to around the Scot (75-85pts) s right now its a expensive glass cannon...

 

[FatRefrigerator]

Very nice changes for Panther D, this tank used to be hopeless and now its a panther with 6 acc and some ok armor.

Yeah but now there's not very much dividing it from the G other than a slight armor boost

 

[mitchverr]

That's why we've clearly stated that the lines in red missed the patch and will be implemented ASAP.

Any specific reason to the humber car change though? I mean, realistically it should be 3AP with reguards to RL performance. The reason it was in use IRL was due to this AP from what I gather, otherwise they would use a more useful MG given the list of problems that this gun actually had in "real war" (basically being the british equiv to the 20mm on german stuff).

 

[m0ulay]

have they fixed the sticky aircraft-deselection-bug yet?

 

[FatRefrigerator]

Any specific reason to the humber car change though? I mean, realistically it should be 3AP with reguards to RL performance. The reason it was in use IRL was due to this AP from what I gather, otherwise they would use a more useful MG given the list of problems that this gun actually had in "real war" (basically being the british equiv to the 20mm on german stuff).

People won't shut up about nerfing the scots so they did this

 

[pras]

21. st has a wrong model for wespe SPG.

Also... is it just me or does the French deck look like a joke? I mean I have no doubts that someone will pwn me in 1v1 with it sooner or later, but still...

They never defined what they meant by "quick"

Perhaps it is an "imminent play"

 

[captinjoehenry]

One other thing:

• Panther A's and Bef.Panther accuracy lowered from 7 to 6

I understand the change for the BEF maybe but as it is a Panther A is exactly the same as a Panther G as they both have the exact same armor value, accuracy, ap and everything else. So as it is the only difference between a Panther A and a Panther G is its model.

 

[FatRefrigerator]

One other thing:

• Panther A's and Bef.Panther accuracy lowered from 7 to 6

I understand the change for the BEF maybe but as it is a Panther A is exactly the same as a Panther G as they both have the exact same armor value, accuracy, ap and everything else. So as it is the only difference between a Panther A and a Panther G is its model.

Three cheers for "variety"!