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ScythiAAR! -- a Tall Tale of Alania

...by Sleight of Hand :unsure:

Excuse the pun. No, no, don't. I'm proud of shit puns and I'll use them at absolutely any opportunity. ;)

Alright, so I thought I'd give one of these here AARs a crack. I also thought I'd try somewhere a bit different; as much as I love playing as the Saxons, Norse and Bretons it has to be said that AARs for them, however great, are ten a penny. They're also all fairly safe places to play, with quite traditional feudal setups.

So... Alania?

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You won't find many huscarls lurking around here.

For whose of you who aren't in-the-know (ignorant swine), the Alans were an Iranian people who were split into two or three main groups after the Hunnic invasions, leading (as some theorists would have it) to the Great Migration.

The Alans represented in CK II are the group who settled in Alania, a land of steppes, plains, mountains and rivers in the Caucasus. They were a nomadic, pastoral people who had been under increasing generations of influence from their Byzantine and Georgian neighbors to the South, in contrast to their steppe brothers (oh yeah, soak that one up folks) the Cumans and Bulgars to the North. Moreover, the Alans were predominantly Orthodox Christian and often allied themselves with other nearby Christian states against Turkic and Persian invaders. Thus, by 1066 the Alans have been somewhat 'Byzantified.'

Well... most of them anyway...

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Cyrus of Alania, heretical Eastern Christian and self-proclaimed #1 fan of his Achaemenid 'great, great, great grandfather twice-removed.'

Kurush is the founder of his apparent bastard Achaemenid line, which he refers to as House Ovseti after Ossetia, the land of his childhood. His coat of arms is somewhat anachronistic but represents the lush plains of Alania and the blue sky above it, two things any son of the steppes would immediately recognize so long as it was daytime and before October. In addition, he chose to add the white cross of the Crusaders on the basis that 11th century historians had recently 'discovered' (after some degree of arm-twisting) that Cyrus the Great himself had in fact devised the emblem when leading his Immortals against the heathen Greeks of old, the ancestors of the ruling Byzantines to the South and a people who disparagingly referred to themselves as 'Barbarians' -- though later Roman historians would arrogantly flip the label, such is the greatest truth of all: History is written by the victors.

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The standard of Cyrus the Great, and also of his close relative (Ed: disputed; source?) Cyrus of Alania.

At this point it's probably worth giving you all an overview of the known world in 1066:

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Culture

Point of note: for historiographical reasons we are in the Byzantine culture group, though linguistically and indeed emotionally we associate ourselves with grandfather's people to the East. That said, they do in fact loathe us and often send envoys stating that 'everyone here is Persian, just like everyone there is Roman... you just have to pass the initiation.'

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Religion

Point of note: the red patch in Mesopotamia is the last remaining stronghold of the one true Nestorian faith -- aside from Alania itself, though for purely political reasons the populace choose to identify themselves as Greek Orthodox. If you've got them by the balls...

Finally, I'm playing CK II 1.07b on Hard, using my personal mod. The aim is basically just to survive, but expanding and spreading the Faith of the East would of course be a bonus. In fact, I think I've chosen a relatively difficult start (a heretic surrounded by AI-controlled hateful folks with no sense of humor or historical irony) so this will be a genuine test for me. I don't plan to reload unless I get annexed or die without an heir. My only red lines would be that I'd like my dynasty to remain Nestorian, and preferably Alan... though I'm not against becoming Persian at some point should fortune and circumstance favor such a conversion.

That's the intro. I'll do the first chapter as soon as I get time. Any and all contributions/suggestions/criticisms are welcome; this is my first AAR so I'm running blind here.

Please subscribe, comment and enjoy! :)
 

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Great idea ! I was waiting for someone brave to travel there but you are even braver to endorse Nestorianism.Consider me under your commands Lord
 

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I played a great Georgia game that heavily involved the Alans, they have a place in my heart (which is lucky because in the average CKII game they don't have anywhere to hide...)

Also, never knew they were of Iranian stock! You learn something new every day...

definitely looking forward to this.
 

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I think the spam has been taken care... for now, at least. :)

Anyway, back to the Caucasus!

Here was House Ovseti as of yesterday's last save:

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House Ovseti -- Before.

When I loaded up, the first thing I did was to find Cyrus a young bride. She had to be 'appropriate' of course, and so I looked to the East for a pretty Nestorian girl. Thankfully, there were two or three options available to me, and so I chose Nahal, a Levantine servant girl with a sharp mind and a great ass (not visible here):

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Nahal Ovseti, the family matriarch and frequent victim of court racism.

Now, many people say that Alania's geography is both its greatest strength and its most dangerous weakness. They're wrong, though, as both Cyrus and his second son Soslan found out the hard way.

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Cyrus the Cruel, as-was.

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Soslan the Dark, a young man mourned by few and whose parentage was often questioned.

It was unanimously decided that Cyrus' expedition to reclaim Abkhazia from the heathens over the mountains had been a poor idea. Whilst such holy wars were both entertaining and just, this particular example had proved ruinous both financially and dynastically.

The new duke, Cyrus' eldest son, had been advised by his godfather the Patriarch of the East that it would be better to consolidate what the Alans already had, rather than risk annihilation in attempting to acquire what they did not. Many a sensible ruler the world over would have heeded such advice, but the new duke was listening to other advisors. Other... voices.

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Cyrus II of Alania, a man with... interesting qualities.

Point of note: in game terms, Cyrus the Cruel fended off an invasion by the high chief of Azov; the 'unyielding' trait, earned in battle, was surely invaluable here, and let a defending Alan army fend off a Cuman force nearly three times its size attacking over a river. The new battle traits seem to be very useful, and definitely help to stop the pre-1.06 mentality of larger armies always winning every battle regardless. He then forced a peace, gaining plenty of gold and prestige, and then launched a holy war for the duchy of Abkhazia, a spectacularly unsuccessful venture resulting in a 12,000 strong Byzantine army ravaging Alania, Cyrus being killed in battle and his son Soslan being murdered by rebels. Great stuff.

Cyrus of Alania will return in: From Georgia With Love (meaning, another update)
 

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Subbed. Been trying to get a Nestorian game going myself, but the Seljuks have not been very accommodating of my existence and I haven't been able to keep a game going. Here's hoping that your ambitions meet more success.
 

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You should be content that you survived ubtil now :laugh:.This mas has very interesting traits I think
 

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In terms of political alliances that almost certainly wouldn't have happened, this is presumably up there...

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Lashin of Alania, 'First Lady of Catholic Europe'

That said, alliances like this are pretty much the only reason I've managed to survive so far, and it's not even 1100.

I'll post a full update later.
 

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Ahh... yes, unfortunately I think excessive modding has destroyed my save game. Well, it does load, but it's weird. :eek:o

I can restart (I'd only got to about 1120) but I may wait for 1.08 as it's apparently only a couple of weeks away.

Sorry, guys. I'll definitely resume or restart this, though. :cool:
 

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I've never really thought of playing in that area of the map (what with being tiny and everyone else being huge, and all) but this looks like it could be really interesting. I'm liking the 'From Georgia With Love' reference :) I hope you can continue sometime - this is a really enjoyable read.

-Alex
 

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Not sure what the level of interest would be, but I may re-start this AAR (or a similar variation of it) once the new portrait and unit DLCs are out later this week. I'm really happy Johan has said the Alans will benefit from them, as they're one of my favorite cultures in CK II and had already been improved in the 1.08 patch.
 

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This is awesome. Please continue. :)