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Awesome, Germany and Sweden trading...I wonder how convoys will exactly factor into this---or whether a landlocked nation (say Hungary) can import goods from Britain?
 

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methinks theres a good place to exploit the ai:D
jk :) good screenshot
 

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Yes, very nice - plenty of room for micromanagement if you want it. Now, where was that Trade Minister of mine...:)
 

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Västernorrland

Are all Paradox staff from the republic of Jämtland or is there another reason why the southern parts of Västernorrland county are merged with Jämtland? And even funnier to change all the forests and cultivated valleys to mountains - they start west of Storsjön (and the ski resort of Åre isn't even central Jämtland) :( ! This makes combat along the coast quite different from what it should be (alpine troops in what IRL is a densly populated and heavily industrialized costal region). It also cuts the country in two halfves if the border defences on the Norwegian border are conquered (on the other hand maybe the coasal garrisons gets a defence bonus from the bunkers on the Norwegian border :( ).

:mad: /Mattias
 
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I think its great that we can see how the trade engin of the game will work, no how you buy stuff insted of the EU2 trade why, think that what what tyour showing thier is a good satifactory screenshot for any one to see how trade works :D more or less heee
 
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Originally posted by tuna
Awesome, Germany and Sweden trading...I wonder how convoys will exactly factor into this---or whether a landlocked nation (say Hungary) can import goods from Britain?

Thanks for the good question!
 
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Originally posted by Meiji-Tenno
I agree. Very nice trade system. I am very excited about this game! :)

However, as an economsit I still cannot understand how the role of money could be left out from the scope of such a great game. I hope that noboby at Paradox thniks that the year of 1929-33 barter trade ruled the world.

I kindly remind everyone how the gold stock of the UK melt becuase of the lend lease in 1939-42. IMHO it is the best example for my concenerns. A nation in the midst of a world war cannot afford to spend any valuable resources in exchange of others.

But a much greater problem appears to me what will countries do which do not have any resources at all. What will be their offer look like...?
 

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Thanks Patric! Decided to preempt the invetibale bitching about "When´s the next screenie going up?", eh?

The Finnish map seems much finer (in its province make up) in comparison to the Swedish map when considering population density. Is this because Finland is expected to see action and Sweden not, I wonder?


/Vandelay
 

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were it not too late adding some sort of base gold amount to countries so that they can exchange for resources would be decent to replace money i would think?
 

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Originally posted by zsolo


However, as an economsit I still cannot understand how the role of money could be left out from the scope of such a great game. I hope that noboby at Paradox thniks that the year of 1929-33 barter trade ruled the world.

I kindly remind everyone how the gold stock of the UK melt becuase of the lend lease in 1939-42. IMHO it is the best example for my concenerns. A nation in the midst of a world war cannot afford to spend any valuable resources in exchange of others.

But a much greater problem appears to me what will countries do which do not have any resources at all. What will be their offer look like...?

I have to say as an opinion no one lost the war for want of money. So during the war itself money was not important as such.
 

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I have to say as an opinion no one lost the war for want of money. So during the war itself money was not important as such.

The brits actually had a money problem, but then they got lend/lease.

But war economy is one thing, what about pre war conditions. As a neutral minor is it impossible to buy equipment?
 
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Originally posted by TMO


The brits actually had a money problem, but then they got lend/lease.

But war economy is one thing, what about pre war conditions. As a neutral minor is it impossible to buy equipment?

TMO alreadyr aised the question on behalf of me.

GOLD mines + initial gold stocks could be a very good compromise. I don't think that it is too late for putting one more resource in.
 
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Then ofcourse, why would you want any gold?
Is it really useful for anything? Afterall the value of x is what it can be used for...

So aside from the fact that is probarbly waay too late, i would like to claim that gold functioned just as a medium, and as such just adds exessive complexity.

BTW would you agree on selling your oil/rubber/steel/coal for some gold that really cant be used for anything except jewellery..
 

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ok here it comes
country a has few resources but a little extra coal and badly needs oil. country b only needs coal but doesnt have extra oil.
country c has both but little steel.
now country a trades coal to b for gold and trades that gold to c for oil who uses that gold for steel and uk uses that gold to buy 5 destroyers. works for me
:)
 

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Originally posted by jacob-Lundgren
ok here it comes
country a has few resources but a little extra coal and badly needs oil. country b only needs coal but doesnt have extra oil.
country c has both but little steel.
now country a trades coal to b for gold and trades that gold to c for oil who uses that gold for steel and uk uses that gold to buy 5 destroyers. works for me
:)

But the UK didn't need Gold to build destroyers it could just print money, it needed gold to import destroyers.
 

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ok i only put 5 seconds of thought into it i coulndt make it perfect ;)
but you see how gold can be useful?
 

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Originally posted by jacob-Lundgren
ok i only put 5 seconds of thought into it i coulndt make it perfect ;)
but you see how gold can be useful?

the real problem is that there is no incentive to accumulate gold, it is only useful post war. Unless you make it a VP earner, but that would make it too easy for America to win.