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Has anyone ever heard of the Darien expedition?

http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/Scotland-History/DarienScheme.htm

Many say that the failure of the scheme is what prompted the destruction of the Scottish Parliament, and subsequent success of the 1707 Act of Union. And yet, this very important event is not included in the AGCEEP.

Perhaps a few alternate events for a Scotland successful in the Darien scheme should be made for the AGCEEP..? I'd be willing to script them...
 

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UndertheSun said:
Has anyone ever heard of the Darien expedition?

http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/Scotland-History/DarienScheme.htm

Many say that the failure of the scheme is what prompted the destruction of the Scottish Parliament, and subsequent success of the 1707 Act of Union. And yet, this very important event is not included in the AGCEEP.

Perhaps a few alternate events for a Scotland successful in the Darien scheme should be made for the AGCEEP..? I'd be willing to script them...

Perhaps more academic sources should be checked, because it looks like the importance of this event is being overplayed. No doubt it was a failed economical enterprise of great magnitude, but it was certainly not a bankrupt. To say that it changed the history of Scotland is perhaps a bit too much. Regarding Darien, it was already taken. It is the place for the first Spanish settlement in continental America, Santa Maria la Antigua, in 1510, two hundred years before.
 

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It certainly seems deserving an event. I would suggest a series of events in line with the French Mississipy trade company:

Code:
#The Mississippi Trade Company#
event = {

	id = 3132
	random = no
	country = FRA
	name = "EVENTNAME3132"
	desc = "EVENTHIST3132"
	style = 4

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1717 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1718 }

	action_a ={				#This sounds like Easy Money!#
		name = "ACTIONNAME3132A"
		command = { type = trade value = 1000 }
		command = { type = gainmanufactory which = -1 value = refinery }
		command = { type = merchants value = 6 }
		command = { type = treasury value = 200 }
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
	}

	action_b ={				#This sounds like a Fraud!#
		name = "ACTIONNAME3132B"
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3133 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3134 }
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -1   }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
	}
}


#State Bankruptcy#
event = {

	id = 3133
	trigger = {
			NOT = { stability = 2 }
			NOT = { event = 3134 }
			}
	random = no
	country = FRA
	name = "EVENTNAME3133"
	desc = "EVENTHIST3133"
	style = 4

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1719 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1740 }

	action_a ={				#Declare State Bankruptcy#
		name = "ACTIONNAME3133A"
		command = { type = treasury value = -1000 }
		command = { type = infra value = -1000 }
		command = { type = trade value = -1000 }
		command = { type = inflation value = 15 }
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = -1 }  
		command = { type = stability value = -3 }
		command = { type = losemanufactory which = -1 }
		command = { type = losemanufactory which = -1 }
		command = { type = losemanufactory which = -1 }
		###command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 4 }
	}
}

#Banque de France and New Financial Legislation#
event = {

	id = 3134
	trigger = {
			domestic = {
					type = innovative
					value = 6
					}
			NOT = {
				event = 3133
				}
			}
	random = no
	country = FRA
	name = "EVENTNAME3134"
	desc = "EVENTHIST3134"
	style = 4

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1719 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1740 }


	action_a ={				#National Loans at 500 ducats#
		name = "ACTIONNAME3134A"
		command = { type = gainmanufactory which = -1 value = luxury }
		command = { type = loansize which = 500 }
		command = { type = inflation value = -5 }
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = -1 }
		command = { type = stability value = 2 }
	}

	action_b ={				#National Loans at 200 ducats#
		name = "ACTIONNAME3134B"
		command = { type = gainmanufactory which = -1 value = luxury }
		command = { type = loansize which = 200 }
		command = { type = inflation value = -10 }
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = -1 }
		command = { type = stability value = 2 }
	}

	action_c ={				#National Loans at 800 ducats#

		name = "ACTIONNAME3134C"
		command = { type = gainmanufactory which = -1 value = luxury }
		command = { type = loansize which = 800 }
		command = { type = inflation value = 5 }
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = -1 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }

	}

}

Basically by supporting the first expedition, the advantages appear clear. Looks like a very good option. The second event is the utter failure and economical bankruptcy, and the third event could be the act of union.
 

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Someone made an event chain about this in the AGCEEP British Isles thread last year. It culminated with the Act of Union. Never got submitted.
 

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Yes? Whyso? It should!
 

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binTravkin said:
Yes? Whyso? It should!
About 90% of the proposed events never get submitted. It is a lot less work to write an event, than to test it, discuss and incorporate suggestions from consensus, test it again and finally submit it.

To start, this discussion should be taking place in the British isles thread, and a search should be run to see the antecedents to this issue in AGCEEP.
 

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Fodoron said:
About 90% of the proposed events never get submitted. It is a lot less work to write an event, than to test it, discuss and incorporate suggestions from consensus, test it again and finally submit it.

To start, this discussion should be taking place in the British isles thread, and a search should be run to see the antecedents to this issue in AGCEEP.

Indeed, there is much to be said for rooting through old threads.

On the search bit, its probably best to also run one through google with a few key words thrown in like 'paradox entertainment'. A great many threads don't show up through a plain forum search.
 

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Gah! Sorry, I forgot to search before I posted. :( I'll go ask a mod to merge these two threads...