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After many failed attempts I finally completed scenario 1 and I would just like to share my network.

I managed to finish the scenario without building metro mainly because I never accumulated enough money and didn't want to take out loans. At the end my network was pulling in good profits each month. I completed all mission objectives except the metro one.

I will show a few of the very first lines I built which were profitable.

On to the images.

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A look at the complete network at the end of the scenario.


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I focused my beginning efforts on the city's airport and the railstation east of town.
The airport tram line was the first thing I built, it connects the airport with the original bus line 2. This tram line remained my most profitable line throughout the scenario.

Another line I built early is the bus line also in this image. It connects the airport with the rail station east of the city. It was moderately profitable.




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Now this is interesting. To complete the first mission objective of connecting the existing lines I built the tram line in the centre of this image connecting the original bus line 1 and 3. It basically cuts straight through town. I didn't put many trams on this line due to traffic problems but it was moderately profitable.

The stations were always packed since it goes across town and later on I tried to remedy that.

Something else you might have noticed is the waterbus line. It basically takes passengers across the river since I wanted to avoid the busy bridges. It was actually very profitable. There's also a feeder bus line that connects the waterbus station with the tram station I just mentioned above. Later on I also added a a bus line on the north shore that takes passengers across town from the waterbus station.




These are just some of my experiences and features of my network. This was my way of completing the scenario, I'm sure yours can be completely different and I'll be interested to see them.

Feel free to share your networks for this scenario.


now, on to the Dam!
 
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Can I assume then that the best way of going at this is trying to get some revenue streams up and running before faffing around with the objectives?

My one and only attempt at the first scenario thus far resulted in a bus line that intersected all three starting lines which had a total of 27 stops on it. Needless to say I have made note never to try and do that again!
 

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That's what I did my first attempt as well. It's a bad idea. You really have to limit the number of stops. Have lots of lines. Think where the passengers are going. Rail stations, airport, college, department store, hotels, etc are a good start.

At the end of the scenario I had 16 bus lines, 11 tram lines, 1 waterbus line.

I didn't ignore any of the objectives (except the metro one). But you don't have to rush to get the objectives done. Focus on building a good network that will make you money.
Another tip is that you can pretty much set your prices into the red, in the $6~$7 range.

When you try to connect all three starting lines with that many stops you are just adding to the traffic problem with buses frequently stopping on the road. And pretty much only terminal stop passengers will get anywhere at all. Passengers from the other 25 stops won't get picked up.
 

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Hi OrangeFlame,

thank you for this information!

May i ask, how many trams did you use for your first line from the airport to bus-line Nr.2, and one more thing - didnt you put some additional stops (stations) at your first own bus line from the airport to the railwaystation west?
It also seemed, that in general you didnt care about the huge number of ppl waiting on the stations, like on those screen shots? However, very interesting to read your strategy, pls let us know more! ;)

Kind Regards!
 

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the airport-bus#2 line had 3 or 4 trams.

I had one intermediate stop between the airport and the railway station.

Only a few stops had crazy amounts of people. But yeah in general I didn't care too much. The airport tram usually have a manageable amount, must be a bad months. :rolleyes:

The other tram line in the other screen always have alot of people however. Since it's the only line that'll take you across town directly. As I mentioned I later added a cross town bus line on the northshore but didn't help the tram line numbers too much. I had about 5 trams servicing that line, it didn't look like adding more trams would improve the service by much unless the city centre traffic improves a bit.

Hi OrangeFlame,

thank you for this information!

May i ask, how many trams did you use for your first line from the airport to bus-line Nr.2, and one more thing - didnt you put some additional stops (stations) at your first own bus line from the airport to the railwaystation west?
It also seemed, that in general you didnt care about the huge number of ppl waiting on the stations, like on those screen shots? However, very interesting to read your strategy, pls let us know more! ;)

Kind Regards!
 

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I see....

And do you usually connect stations (so f.e. one station has 4 lines who stop at it), or only place the stations of the lines within walking distance? Cause i think it wouldnt make much sense to only have short lines within the same area, without the possibility for a transfer line, which can get the ppl to longer destinations. Or am i wrong?
 

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I place them within walking distance as to not clog one street with vehicles from multiple lines. A had short lines but each line will have transfers to other lines so it was possible for passengers to make their way across town.

As someone else have mentioned on another thread, the passengers will pay fare each time they change their mode of transport. So ideally you want them to take bus>tram>bus>tram..... etc. if you only transfer with short lines of buses for example they will only pay one fare.


I see....

And do you usually connect stations (so f.e. one station has 4 lines who stop at it), or only place the stations of the lines within walking distance? Cause i think it wouldnt make much sense to only have short lines within the same area, without the possibility for a transfer line, which can get the ppl to longer destinations. Or am i wrong?
 

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I've started the scenario again today and stated off taking a big loan out and building an east west line with 5 stops serving two train stations, some houses and a couple of shopping centres (i think). It's working well and making profit while also paying off the loan. I'll continue it tomorrow and see how I get on.
 

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I've started the scenario again today and stated off taking a big loan out and building an east west line with 5 stops serving two train stations, some houses and a couple of shopping centres (i think). It's working well and making profit while also paying off the loan. I'll continue it tomorrow and see how I get on.

an east west metro line? or tram line? Do let us know how it goes.
 

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There's some bug, that for sure, but don't let the traffic fool you guys!
After i don't know how many attempt i finally beat Berlin in the first mission of the campaign! And without the patch (i quit just one minutes ago and finally see Steam update my game)!

Yeah, yeah yeah... i start with some tram near the theater/lunapark and then cut the city in two using those park and the great road in the middle of Berlin. I have some bad time, i saw the traffic grow but when i adopt some change at my line everything tend to back normal.

And without a loan and metro! Just 10 hours of study! :)
Awesome experience, awesome game.
 

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an east west metro line? or tram line? Do let us know how it goes.

Ah i forgot to type metro! Its a Metro line all under ground. There are a couple of bus routes around some of the small housing areas near 2 of the stops to bring in more peeps. Thus far it is making a profit so hopefully i can start to expand a few other bits.
 

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That airport shuttle is a good tip for sure, a good spot for an easy money-maker.

I've had some success copying the model of short, often single-use lines throughout the city. Any boulevard with room for tram down the center I've been able to make a profit just running a line that gets to the end and turns around, generally avoiding any traffic problems.

A particularly good combo I found was a tram from the northeast train station across the bridge into the original line 1 bus loop, along with a bus line running north from the station up to the housing area where the boy scouts ask you to build a line as one of the first optional missions.

Be careful running a line into the plaza east of Brandenburg gate though, I tripped some traffic bug there where drivers in the rightmost southern lane would slow to a crawl while crossing the tram line, whether there was any obstruction or not.
 

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Well i finished level 1 with no problems on my second try. Sticking with the metro was the real winner here. There were some bus and tram lines but most barely got used even when linked up with the metro. Eventually my Metro spanned from the South Police Station, headed north stopping at the other half of that housing development, then headed north east to the airport, under the river to i think a college, north to the station and then NE again to the theater/college there.

My east west line went from one of the housing estates above the airport, through the two stations, the fairground, a shopping centre and terminated again in a housing development on the far side.

The only issue I had at one point was that the two stations on the east west line got very busy. I changed some lines and it worked out fine but because of the bug it still looked like there were 400 people there according to the little icon. When i hovered over it was just 70 or so.

I did have to build two metro stations side by side though to help ease the congestion. It was cool seeing the people walk from one right over to the other but It would be great if you could upgrade to 3 or 4 lane metros at a later date.
 

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I've seen some people saying they'd like multi-lane metros and multi-level metros. You can sort of achieve this by placing them next to each other. This is especially true for the underground metros, you have three levels to work with. In this other thread you can see a large interchange of 6 stations (12 stops). Think of it as a very large, multi-level terminal.
So, you can achieve this with current in-game functionality.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?523690-Central-Transfer-Station-Images