Well we know that one of the options of germany is to leave the nordics alone and even befriend them, if they do, and the nordics either form a faction of their own or all join the axis or comiterm then I think there may e a chance for a closer nordic union at this point. I shouldn't be called scandinavia though, the geographical region scandinavia does not include denmark, the country group does not include finnland, there can be no nordic union without either of those.
There could be a option for sweden and finnland to become one again if sweden joins the war on the finnish side though.
An united Scandinavia was not a possibility at this point in history.
Since there's nothign called scandinavia I'd have to agree, a united kingdoms of the north however? Depends on outside circumstances. If as happened the nrodics end up on diffrent sides of the war then no it wont happen.
- here are no separate Franco-British Union tag, in said event GB just annexed remains of France and thats it.
Well it's nt GB it's the UK, united kingdoms so I guess it's now the united kingdoms of great brittain, ireland and france.
There's a reason why it's always the Swedes, never the Danes or Norwegians, that propose a Nordic Union.
I actually hear it more from danes, but granted almost as often from swedes. Mostly young men on the right wing of politics though. In the 1940s I would have supported it, today it's a pipedream, finnland would never join and without them what's the point?
It was more and more unlikely after Sweden backstabbed Denmark and Norway by both being neutral and enabling the German war machine to advance. Sweden let trains go freely carrying soldiers and military equipment to the battle of Narvik during the invasion of Norway. The Swedish government claimed they were neutral, but that's not true when you look at the evidence.
The Norwegian prime minister at the time even went so far as to say "If YOU were able to have a conversation with Pehr Albin Hansson (Prime minister of Sweden) then you should give him my greetings and say that there are two things i desire to experience, which are that the Germans are thrown out of Norway and that i get to live so long as to have the opportunity to yell and make a fool of him (Hansson) and his whole government" He also said "..there are nothing, nothing, nothing that I hate with such a burning flame and so wildly as Sweden - and this is his (Hansson's) fault"
If there even was an opportunity for a Scandinavian Union, Sweden had to come in defence of Denmark and Norway instead of enabling nazi expansion.
(Source:
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/i...-passere-til-Narvik-6842395.html#.T8txQbD0jG0)
Then there is no opportunity for a nordic union, sweden would never join the fight against someone who was allied with finnland against russia. No we weren't neutral we aided both sides as it benefitted our goals, helped germany as long as it seemed possible they would defeat russia and then aided the allies to not get sanctioned for having helped germany.
But sweden joining against the germans is a no go scenario, no one was suggesting it, the conservatives wanted to join the war or the german side to fight russia.
We could have invaded norway and denmark first I guess, or requested these territories from germany in exchange for joining the war on their side.
As for betraying norway, you wanted you freedom, then it's up to you to defend it too, you wnted sweden's protection (a aughable concept in itself in this era) then you should have stayed in sweden.
As I said if the germans invade denmark and norway then a nordic union becoems impossible. Unless Russia also does not invade finnland. But as soon as two nordics end up on diffrent sides the union is a no go.
When I was young, I had a babysitter that was born here in Canada, but her parents were Norwegian. I remember her singing the phrase- "1000 Swedes ran through the weeds, chased by 1 Norwegian!" I'm not sure if that is a saying Norwegians have or not, but it stuck with me. I suppose there is some rivalry between the two nations. I'm not sure any neighbors get along 100% in all their history, but I came to find out that I am part Swedish myself, so I am somewhat interesting in Scandinavian history and politics.
When I play HOI, I always try to make the Scandinavian Union if I am able to. They are great little allies for Germany.
Question. Is Finland not part of the union in previous HOI games? Can it be, or is that just optional?
Pretty sure your nursery rhyme is just that. A lot of this animosity comes from ww2 in fact, sweden were aiding the axis, and the norwegians and danes didn't take kindly to it. meanwhile the finnish are mad because we didn't join the war openly on their side, canät please everyone though.
At the very least I would expect intervention by either Germany or the Soviet Union if the Nordics were to unite, since that would severely undermine their own strength in the region.
Depends on the situation, germnay have a option to befirend norway and denmark, if they do and the nordics all join finnlands war with russia then it could be a thing.
