Scandinavian Union

[Nordlund]

Now that we know that there is an Franco-British union event ingame( and i know some people don´t like it and so on) can we then get a scandinavion union event? like the nordic countries get an option to join toghter vercus sovjet when they attack finland, or even later when german goes viking hunting. I also know we can make a faction called " the northern light" or something...but i like the idea that the nordic countires join toghter during this time of war as one..

and again..sorry for my english

 

[sfmess]

Now that we know that there is an Franco-British union event ingame( and i know some people don´t like it and so on) can we then get a scandinavion union event? like the nordic countries get an option to join toghter vercus sovjet when they attack finland, or even later when german goes viking hunting. I also know we can make a faction called " the northern light" or something...but i like the idea that the nordic countires join toghter during this time of war as one..

and again..sorry for my english

It would be awesome to unite Scandinavia. Custom factions seen to be our only option at the moment, barring doing that by conquest or in-game Union flavour events as you suggest (Scandinavia DLC maybe? Paradox should be all over that )

I know for me a Scandinavian-Only faction has to be named "Kalmar Union - Part Two"

 

[Loke]

Now that we know that there is an Franco-British union event ingame( and i know some people don´t like it and so on) can we then get a scandinavion union event? like the nordic countries get an option to join toghter vercus sovjet when they attack finland, or even later when german goes viking hunting. I also know we can make a faction called " the northern light" or something...but i like the idea that the nordic countires join toghter during this time of war as one..

and again..sorry for my english

Or just the "Nordic Union" and maybe we are not that far from it IRL, as things are changing in the world....

 

[Nordlund]

Or just the "Nordic Union" and maybe we are not that far from it IRL, as things are changing in the world....

True true. Maybe the Nordic Trade Union can go and get them self and army

 

[Nordlund]

well, if not an event. then maybe in future Dlc that add national focus tree for the nordic countries.

 

[Anichent]

Sounds like an idea for a faction to me. I wish we knew how easy it was to found a faction and how early in game we could

 

[Admiral Fisker]

An united Scandinavia was not a possibility at this point in history.

 

[Nordlund]

An united Scandinavia was not a possibility at this point in history.

well..no, but we are talking about alternativ history now. And we did get closer after the war and was then talking about a nordic defense alliance. It almost get real, but then nato showed up.

 

[Anichent]

well..no, but we are talking about alternativ history now. And we did get closer after the war and was then talking about a nordic defense alliance. It almost get real, but then nato showed up.

Althistory generally means a route history could have taken. So if you accept it wasn't possible at that time, it really has no business in game outside a mod.

 

[Nordlund]

Althistory generally means a route history could have taken. So if you accept it wasn't possible at that time, it really has no business in game outside a mod.

if memoney don´t fail me the american national focus tree more or less had options for joining all the factions. That don´t sound less possible then that the nordic countires makes an alliance toghter and then in worst case scenario when german starts invading forms a more united country. But i see what you mean with mod insted of in core game. ... i just like the idea.. :/ sorry..

 

[DmUa]

Now that we know that there is an Franco-British union event ingame

- here are no separate Franco-British Union tag, in said event GB just annexed remains of France and thats it.

 

[Karimas]

Althistory generally means a route history could have taken. So if you accept it wasn't possible at that time, it really has no business in game outside a mod.

i disagree with you here. Not only because Paradox clearly tends to have an alternative Sandbox mode, so its a good thing to have it in.
But even more because what we think "could have happen" is just what we have in mind.
Even small things can change the world, Hitler himself is the example for that. Imagine him dead before he came to power or even write his book.
History would be "totally different" and we could never imagine what we get to know as WW2. We might still have that war but it could be very different.

 

[Surimi]

Couldn't the Scandinavian countries just create a custom faction, then they'd all be united and fighting on the same side in any wars without needing to be a single tag.

I mean, it seems like the Franco British union, ahistorical as it is, requires France to basically be on the ropes, as a last ditch desperate move. It's not like the French in 1936 are just going to turn around and go "you know what GB, we really like you and want to unite with you due to our long shared cultural and historical legacy".

 

[Nordlund]

Couldn't the Scandinavian countries just create a custom faction, then they'd all be united and fighting on the same side in any wars without needing to be a single tag.

I mean, it seems like the Franco British union, ahistorical as it is, requires France to basically be on the ropes, as a last ditch desperate move. It's not like the French in 1936 are just going to turn around and go "you know what GB, we really like you and want to unite with you due to our long shared cultural and historical legacy".

My idea was that at first it would be a faction/alliance thingy. Then if germany attacks an untied nordic front and have similar succes against danmark/norway maybe then a scandinavian event would happen.

 

[Loke]

2014 Sweden alone has larger GDP than Poland, alot larger per capita.
If combining it with Denmark, Finland, Norway and Iceland it would place a Nordic Union with an economy as large as Russia although alot more effective per capita.

So its go go go for me...

 

[Fulmen]

While chances for a Nordic Union in this timeframe are pure fantasy, a union between Finland and Sweden was proposed in August 1940 and discussed by the governments of both countries in the following September.

Neither Germany or Russia was willing to accept such a union, and what ever slim chances existed for its conception were shot down there and then.

Speaking of proposed unions, Estonian president Konstantin Päts had in an attempt to save his country, proposed a union with Finland in the summer of 1940, right before Estonia was annexed into the USSR.

A union by that point in time was impossible as Estonia was already basically occupied and accepting could have given the Russians a new excuse for war, so Finland declined.

 

[GeneralGuntherofSweden]

Now that we know that there is an Franco-British union event ingame( and i know some people don´t like it and so on) can we then get a scandinavion union event? like the nordic countries get an option to join toghter vercus sovjet when they attack finland, or even later when german goes viking hunting. I also know we can make a faction called " the northern light" or something...but i like the idea that the nordic countires join toghter during this time of war as one..

and again..sorry for my english

I think you mean "Sweden".

 

[Olfert Fischer]

Given the circumstances at the time, Denmark would never have joined a Scandinavian arrangment. Denmark followed a "German-friendly" policy so as not to provke it's much larger and powerful neighbor to the south.

 

[Cowsnipe]

Vicky 2 and eu4 has a United Scandinavia event, I wouldn't be to surprised to see it show up in hoi4.

I understand Denmarks stance tough, it's impossible to defend completely flat terrain against such an overwhelming foe.

A United Nordic union could make the winrerwar interesting

 

[Admiral Fisker]

2014 Sweden alone has larger GDP than Poland, alot larger per capita.
If combining it with Denmark, Finland, Norway and Iceland it would place a Nordic Union with an economy as large as Russia although alot more effective per capita.

So its go go go for me...

There's a reason why it's always the Swedes, never the Danes or Norwegians, that propose a Nordic Union.