Scandinavian Leaders

unmerged(25633) · Aug 28, 2009

Given that I don't know of any military role played by Poniatowski...

And, if there was no better Polish commander allied with the Swedes than Sapieha, then perhaps that Leader ought to be eliminated althogether.

It's not like the Swedes are short of leaders after all--especially if Rehnskiold's stats are improved to better reflect historical reality

The Corsair

unmerged(80927) · Aug 28, 2009

Code:

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#XVI century

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131804 }
	category = general
	name = "Hemming Gadh"
	startdate = {
		year = 1506
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 15
		month = december
		year = 1520
	}
	rank = 3
	movement = 2
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131807 }
	category = general
	name = "Berend von Mehlen"
	startdate = {
		year = 1521
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1525
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 2
	fire = 2
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131808 }
	category = general
	name = "Johan Tre Rosor"
	startdate = {
		year = 1534
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1554
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 2
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131805 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Jakob Bagge"
	startdate = {
		year = 1555
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1570
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131811 }
	category = general
	name = "Nils Boije" #Nils Boije af Gennäs
	startdate = {
		day = 26
		month = october
		year = 1555
	}
	deathdate = {
		month = february
		year = 1566
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 2
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
	remark = "Took the strong castle of Varberg in 1565, but defeated while trying to take the castle of Bohus."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131813 }
	category = general
	name = "Charles de Mornay"
	startdate = {
		year = 1563
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1570
	}
	rank = 3
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131814 }
	category = general
	name = "Henrik Horn" #Henrik Horn Klasson af Kancas
	startdate = {
		month = october
		year = 1563
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1584
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Son of Klas Horn."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131810 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Klas Horn"
	startdate = {
		day = 7
		month = august
		year = 1564
	}
	deathdate = {
		month = september
		year = 1566
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 5
	shock = 5
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131816 }
	category = general
	name = "Karl"
	startdate = {
		year = 1569
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 20
		month = december
		year = 1605
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Karl IX before reign" #Hertig Karl
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131817 }
	category = general
	name = "Karl Horn"
	startdate = {
		year = 1577
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 15
		month = may
		year = 1601
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
	remark = "Son of Henrik Horn. Both were tireless in Estland."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131815 }
	category = general
	name = "P. de la Gardie"
	startdate = {
		year = 1580
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 4
		month = november
		year = 1585
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131809 }
	category = general
	name = "Klas E. Fleming"
	startdate = {
		year = 1591
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 11
		month = april
		year = 1597
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#XVII century

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131818 }
	category = general
	name = "Carl Gyllenhielm"
	startdate = {
		year = 1601
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1611
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 3
	fire = 2
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Bastard Brother of Gustav II Adolf"
}

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131820 }
	category = general
	name = "J. de la Gardie"
	startdate = {
		year = 1608
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1628
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 2
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Laiska-Jaakko"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131821 }
	category = general
	name = "Evert Horn"
	startdate = {
		year = 1609
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 29
		month = july
		year = 1615
	}
	rank = 3
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 2
	dormant = no
	remark = "Son of Karl Horn and daring friend of J.De La Gardie. One of few Swedish siege experts."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131822 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Klas Fleming"
	startdate = {
		year = 1619
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 25
		month = july
		year = 1644
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131819 }
	category = general
	name = "Herman Wrangel"
	startdate = {
		year = 1626
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1637
	}
	rank = 3
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131824 }
	category = general
	name = "Gustav Horn"
	startdate = {
		year = 1628
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 9
		month = may
		year = 1657
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131827 }
	category = general
	name = "Bernhard"
	startdate = {
		year = 1631
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 4
		month = september
		year = 1635
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 4
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
	remark = "...of Saxe-Weimar. Actually became a French general in 1635."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131851 }
	category = general
	name = "Torten Stålhandske"
	startdate = {
		year = 1632
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 20
		month = april
		year = 1644
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 3
	fire = 2
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131825 }
	category = general
	name = "Johan Banér"
	startdate = {
		year = 1634
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 9
		month = may
		year = 1641
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 5
	fire = 4
	shock = 5
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131828 }
	category = general
	name = "Karl G. Wrangel" #Karl Gustav Wrangel
	startdate = {
		year = 1638
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 18
		month = june
		year = 1675
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131829 }
	category = general
	name = "Arvid Wittenberg"
	startdate = {
		day = 9
		month = may
		year = 1641
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 6
		month = september
		year = 1657
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131826 }
	category = general
	name = "Torstenson"
	startdate = {
		day = 30
		month = august
		year = 1641
	}
	deathdate = {
		month = december
		year = 1646
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 5
	fire = 5
	shock = 4
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131830 }
	category = general
	name = "von Königsmarck" #Hans Christoffer
	startdate = {
		year = 1642
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1655
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 5
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Commander of the Flying Column"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131853 }
	category = general
	name = "G.A Lewenhaupt" #Gustaf Adolf Lewenhaupt
	startdate = {
		year = 1645
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 28
		month = november
		year = 1656
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
	remark = "Took Daugavpils. Organized the defense of Finland just before his death"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131833 }
	category = monarch
	name = "Karl X Gustav"
	startdate = {
		year = 1648
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 12
		month = february
		year = 1660
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 5
	fire = 4
	shock = 4
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
	remark = "King"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131832 }
	category = general
	name = "R. von Ascheberg"
	startdate = {
		year = 1656
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1681
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Rutger von Ascheberg, a very able commander."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131835 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Gustav Stenbock"
	startdate = {
		year = 1664
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1676
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131834 }
	category = monarch
	name = "Karl XI"
	startdate = {
		month = april
		year = 1676
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 4
		month = april
		year = 1697
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 5
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "King"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131842 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Hans Wachtmeister"
	startdate = {
		month = june
		year = 1676
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 14
		month = february
		year = 1714
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131837 }
	category = general
	name = "C.G Rehnskiöld" #Carl Gustav
	startdate = {
		year = 1699
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 28
		month = january
		year = 1722
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#XVIII century

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131843 }
	category = general
	name = "A.L Lewenhaupt" #Adam Ludwig
	startdate = {
		year = 1701
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 11
		month = february
		year = 1719
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 2
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131841 }
	category = general
	name = "Magnus Stenbock"
	startdate = {
		year = 1704
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 22
		month = february
		year = 1717
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131836 }
	category = general
	name = "Carl G. Armfeldt" #Carl Gustav
	startdate = {
                day = 5
                month = august
		year = 1713
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 23
		month = october
		year = 1736
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131846 }
	category = general
	name = "Axel von Fersen"
	startdate = {
		year = 1748
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1765
	}
	rank = 3
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131845 }
	category = general
	name = "A. Ehrensvärd" #Augustin
	startdate = {
		year = 1756
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 28
		month = july
		year = 1771
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
	remark = "The man behind Sveaborg. Also an admiral."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131848 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Henrik af Trolle"
	startdate = {
		year = 1773
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 11
		month = march
		year = 1784
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#XIX century

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131850 }
	category = general
	name = "C.J Adlercreutz" #Carl Johan Adlercreutz
	startdate = {
		year = 1808
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 20
		month = august
		year = 1815
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "See the battles of Revolahti (Revolax) and Oravainen (Oravais)"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131849 }
	category = general
	name = "Carl von Döbeln" #Georg Carl von Döbeln
	startdate = {
		year = 1808
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 15
		month = february
		year = 1820
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Battle of Kauhajoki. Also fought in India in French service."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131852 }
	category = general
	name = "Johan A. Sandels" #Johan August Sandels
	startdate = {
		year = 1808
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1827
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 5
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Battle of Koljonvirta (Virta bro)"
}

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#First free id: 0131859
#Ids 0131806, 0131812, 0131839, 0131844 and 0131838 are also free

Gathenhielm, Arvid Horn, Lars Eriksson and Bo Grip have been removed and Toll replaced and everyone else has been reworked, more or less. Gathenhielm was removed because he was a privateer and pirate and didn't often follow the crown's orders and because he didn't command any naval battles. I have found absolutely zero information on this "Lars Eriksson". Removed until somebody finds some something on him. Bo Grip's only defense was that of his castle, and not terribly successfully, so he's been removed as well. This "Hans Boije af Gennäs" was actually Nils Boije af Gennäs (an ancestor of mine

) so he's been changed.

I've also added a new leader, a Lewenhaupt, to replace Toll and asked a Polish historian, Radosław Sikora, regarding Sapieha and Poniatowski. I think Poniatowski should be removed, unless Mr Sikora manages to dig up some actually competent Polish commander in Karl XII's service.

Also I think Sweden might have too many leaders during the middle of the 17th century, but we'll see.

EDIT: Gustav Adolf and Karl XII removed, since I didn't do anything for them
EDIT2: Poniatowski removed.

Toio · Aug 28, 2009

Legu said:

Code:

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#XVI century

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131804 }
	category = general
	name = "Hemming Gadh"
	startdate = {
		year = 1506
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 15
		month = december
		year = 1520
	}
	rank = 3
	movement = 2
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131807 }
	category = general
	name = "Berend von Mehlen"
	startdate = {
		year = 1521
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1525
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 2
	fire = 2
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131808 }
	category = general
	name = "Johan Tre Rosor"
	startdate = {
		year = 1534
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1554
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 2
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131805 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Jakob Bagge"
	startdate = {
		year = 1555
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1570
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131811 }
	category = general
	name = "Nils Boije" #Nils Boije af Gennäs
	startdate = {
		day = 26
		month = october
		year = 1555
	}
	deathdate = {
		month = february
		year = 1566
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 2
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
	remark = "Took the strong castle of Varberg in 1565, but defeated while trying to take the castle of Bohus."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131813 }
	category = general
	name = "Charles de Mornay"
	startdate = {
		year = 1563
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1570
	}
	rank = 3
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131814 }
	category = general
	name = "Henrik Horn" #Henrik Horn Klasson af Kancas
	startdate = {
		month = october
		year = 1563
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1584
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Son of Klas Horn."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131810 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Klas Horn"
	startdate = {
		day = 7
		month = august
		year = 1564
	}
	deathdate = {
		month = september
		year = 1566
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 5
	shock = 5
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131816 }
	category = general
	name = "Karl"
	startdate = {
		year = 1569
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 20
		month = december
		year = 1605
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Karl IX before reign" #Hertig Karl
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131817 }
	category = general
	name = "Karl Horn"
	startdate = {
		year = 1577
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 15
		month = may
		year = 1601
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
	remark = "Son of Henrik Horn. Both were tireless in Estland."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131815 }
	category = general
	name = "P. de la Gardie"
	startdate = {
		year = 1580
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 4
		month = november
		year = 1585
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131809 }
	category = general
	name = "Klas E. Fleming"
	startdate = {
		year = 1591
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 11
		month = april
		year = 1597
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#XVII century

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131818 }
	category = general
	name = "Carl Gyllenhielm"
	startdate = {
		year = 1601
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1611
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 3
	fire = 2
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Bastard Brother of Gustav II Adolf"
}

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131820 }
	category = general
	name = "J. de la Gardie"
	startdate = {
		year = 1608
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1628
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 2
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Laiska-Jaakko"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131821 }
	category = general
	name = "Evert Horn"
	startdate = {
		year = 1609
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 29
		month = july
		year = 1615
	}
	rank = 3
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 2
	dormant = no
	remark = "Son of Karl Horn and daring friend of J.De La Gardie. One of few Swedish siege experts."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131822 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Klas Fleming"
	startdate = {
		year = 1619
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 25
		month = july
		year = 1644
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131819 }
	category = general
	name = "Herman Wrangel"
	startdate = {
		year = 1626
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1637
	}
	rank = 3
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131824 }
	category = general
	name = "Gustav Horn"
	startdate = {
		year = 1628
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 9
		month = may
		year = 1657
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131827 }
	category = general
	name = "Bernhard"
	startdate = {
		year = 1631
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 4
		month = september
		year = 1635
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 4
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
	remark = "...of Saxe-Weimar. Actually became a French general in 1635."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131851 }
	category = general
	name = "Torten Stålhandske"
	startdate = {
		year = 1632
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 20
		month = april
		year = 1644
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 3
	fire = 2
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131825 }
	category = general
	name = "Johan Banér"
	startdate = {
		year = 1634
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 9
		month = may
		year = 1641
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 5
	fire = 4
	shock = 5
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131828 }
	category = general
	name = "Karl G. Wrangel" #Karl Gustav Wrangel
	startdate = {
		year = 1638
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 18
		month = june
		year = 1675
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131829 }
	category = general
	name = "Arvid Wittenberg"
	startdate = {
		day = 9
		month = may
		year = 1641
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 6
		month = september
		year = 1657
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131826 }
	category = general
	name = "Torstenson"
	startdate = {
		day = 30
		month = august
		year = 1641
	}
	deathdate = {
		month = december
		year = 1646
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 5
	fire = 5
	shock = 4
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131830 }
	category = general
	name = "von Königsmarck" #Hans Christoffer
	startdate = {
		year = 1642
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1655
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 5
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Commander of the Flying Column"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131853 }
	category = general
	name = "G.A Lewenhaupt" #Gustaf Adolf Lewenhaupt
	startdate = {
		year = 1645
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 28
		month = november
		year = 1656
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
	remark = "Took Daugavpils. Organized the defense of Finland just before his death"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131833 }
	category = monarch
	name = "Karl X Gustav"
	startdate = {
		year = 1648
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 12
		month = february
		year = 1660
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 5
	fire = 4
	shock = 4
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
	remark = "King"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131832 }
	category = general
	name = "R. von Ascheberg"
	startdate = {
		year = 1656
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1681
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Rutger von Ascheberg, a very able commander."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131835 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Gustav Stenbock"
	startdate = {
		year = 1664
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1676
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131834 }
	category = monarch
	name = "Karl XI"
	startdate = {
		month = april
		year = 1676
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 4
		month = april
		year = 1697
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 5
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "King"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131842 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Hans Wachtmeister"
	startdate = {
		month = june
		year = 1676
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 14
		month = february
		year = 1714
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131837 }
	category = general
	name = "C.G Rehnskiöld" #Carl Gustav
	startdate = {
		year = 1699
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 28
		month = january
		year = 1722
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#XVIII century

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131843 }
	category = general
	name = "A.L Lewenhaupt" #Adam Ludwig
	startdate = {
		year = 1701
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 11
		month = february
		year = 1719
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 2
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131839 }
	category = general
	name = "S. Poniatowski"
	startdate = {
		year = 1702
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1714
	}
	rank = 3
	movement = 2
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Also Polish."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131841 }
	category = general
	name = "Magnus Stenbock"
	startdate = {
		year = 1704
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 22
		month = february
		year = 1717
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131836 }
	category = general
	name = "Carl G. Armfeldt" #Carl Gustav
	startdate = {
                day = 5
                month = august
		year = 1713
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 23
		month = october
		year = 1736
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131846 }
	category = general
	name = "Axel von Fersen"
	startdate = {
		year = 1748
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1765
	}
	rank = 3
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131845 }
	category = general
	name = "A. Ehrensvärd" #Augustin
	startdate = {
		year = 1756
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 28
		month = july
		year = 1771
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
	remark = "The man behind Sveaborg. Also an admiral."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131848 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Henrik af Trolle"
	startdate = {
		year = 1773
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 11
		month = march
		year = 1784
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#XIX century

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131850 }
	category = general
	name = "C.J Adlercreutz" #Carl Johan Adlercreutz
	startdate = {
		year = 1808
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 20
		month = august
		year = 1815
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "See the battles of Revolahti (Revolax) and Oravainen (Oravais)"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131849 }
	category = general
	name = "Carl von Döbeln" #Georg Carl von Döbeln
	startdate = {
		year = 1808
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 15
		month = february
		year = 1820
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Battle of Kauhajoki. Also fought in India in French service."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131852 }
	category = general
	name = "Johan A. Sandels" #Johan August Sandels
	startdate = {
		year = 1808
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1827
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 5
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Battle of Koljonvirta (Virta bro)"
}

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#First free id: 0131859
#Ids 0131806 0131812 0131844 0131838 are also free

Gathenhielm, Arvid Horn, Lars Eriksson and Bo Grip have been removed and Toll replaced and everyone else has been reworked, more or less. Gathenhielm was removed because he was a privateer and pirate and didn't often follow the crown's orders and because he didn't command any naval battles. I have found absolutely zero information on this "Lars Eriksson". Removed until somebody finds some something on him. Bo Grip's only defense was that of his castle, and not terribly successfully, so he's been removed as well. This "Hans Boije af Gennäs" was actually Nils Boije af Gennäs (an ancestor of mine

) so he's been changed.

I've also added a new leader, a Lewenhaupt, to replace Toll and asked a Polish historian, Radosław Sikora, regarding Sapieha and Poniatowski. I think Poniatowski should be removed, unless Mr Sikora manages to dig up some actually competent Polish commander in Karl XII's service.

Also I think Sweden might have too many leaders during the middle of the 17th century, but we'll see.

EDIT: Gustav Adolf and Karl XII removed, since I didn't do anything for them

i also think SWE has too many leaders in that period, so which from your list are new or need to be removed, can you please colour code them, ie red for out , yellow for in

As regards for kings, they should be left out as leaders unless they personally led their armies.

unmerged(80927) · Aug 29, 2009

Code:

[COLOR="Red"]historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131819 }
	category = general
	name = "Herman Wrangel"
	startdate = {
		year = 1626
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1637
	}
	rank = 3
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131851 }
	category = general
	name = "Torsten Stålhandske"
	startdate = {
		year = 1632
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 20
		month = april
		year = 1644
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 3
	fire = 2
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131830 }
	category = general
	name = "von Königsmarck" #Hans Christoffer
	startdate = {
		year = 1642
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1655
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 5
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Commander of the Flying Column"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131853 }
	category = general
	name = "G.A Lewenhaupt" #Gustaf Adolf Lewenhaupt
	startdate = {
		year = 1645
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 28
		month = november
		year = 1656
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
	remark = "Took Daugavpils. Organized the defense of Finland just before his death"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131832 }
	category = general
	name = "R. von Ascheberg"
	startdate = {
		year = 1656
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1681
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Rutger von Ascheberg, a very able commander."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131835 }
	category = general
	name = "Gustav Stenbock"
	startdate = {
		year = 1642
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1664
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
[/COLOR]
#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#First free id: 0131859
#Ids 0131806, 0131812, [COLOR="Yellow"]0131819, 0131832[/COLOR] ,0131838 and 0131844 are also free

Herman Wrangel and Rutger von Ascheberg should be removed since they were fairly insignificant and the others marked with red can be removed if necessary. I've also changed Gustav Stenbock into a general, because while his rank was an admiral he actually commanded only land troops. He can be removed as well, if necessary.

As regards for kings, they should be left out as leaders unless they personally led their armies.

And ? Sweden at the moment has Karl Knutsson Bonde, Sten Sture den äldre, Gustav II Adolf, Karl X, Karl XI, Karl XII and Karl Johan XIV who were de facto rulers of Sweden during their time as a leader in game. None of the should be removed, since all of them commanded campaigns personally. I only meant I removed Gustav II Adolf and Karl XII from the list because I didn't do anything for them and including them in my list would therefore be useless. I didn't mean they should be removed from the game.

unmerged(80927) · Aug 31, 2009

Ok, so according to Radek the best Polish commanders were Hieronim Augustyn Lubomirski and Michał Serwacy Wiśniowiecki. However both of these were in the service of Karl's puppet king of the Commonwealth, rather than Karl himself. So I don't think they qualify. Removed, unless someone disagrees.

EDIT: Actually, Lubomirski wasn't even in the service of Stanisław Leszczyński but only of the Warsaw confederation...

unmerged(25633) · Sep 1, 2009

Legu wrote:
Herman Wrangel and Rutger von Ascheberg should be removed since they were fairly insignificant and the others marked with red can be removed if necessary. I've also changed Gustav Stenbock into a general, because while his rank was an admiral he actually commanded only land troops. He can be removed as well, if necessary.

corsair:
In my homegrown, I use Simon Grundel-Helmfeldt instead of Stenbock.

From the rest of your list above, I use only Konigsmarck and von Ascheberg (with drastically reduced dates)

el ausente

unmerged(80927) · Oct 17, 2009

I've done some tweaking here and there and unless someone disagrees with my changes I'll submit this one as per the rules.

Code:

#Sweden - Leaders

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#XV century

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131800 }
	category = general
	name = "Engelbrekt"
	startdate = {
		day = 10
		month = january
		year = 1434
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 4
		month = may
		year = 1436
	}
	rank = 5
	movement = 2
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131801 }
	category = monarch
	name = "Karl Knutsson" #Karl Knutsson Bonde
	startdate = {
		year = 1436
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 24
		month = february
		year = 1457
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 3
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Karl VIII"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131802 }
	category = general
	name = "Sten Sture d.ä"	#Sten Sture den äldre (the elder)
	startdate = {
		year = 1470
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1497
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131803 }
	category = general
	name = "Knut Posse"
	startdate = {
		year = 1471
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 24
		month = march
		year = 1500
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 2
	fire = 2
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#XVI century

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131804 }
	category = general
	name = "Hemming Gadh"
	startdate = {
		month = july
		year = 1506
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1509
	}
	rank = 3
	movement = 2
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131805 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Jakob Bagge"
	startdate = {
		year = 1555
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1570
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131811 }
	category = general
	name = "Nils Boije"
	startdate = {
		day = 26
		month = october
		year = 1555
	}
	deathdate = {
		month = february
		year = 1566
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 2
	fire = 2
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131814 }
	category = general
	name = "Henrik Horn"
	startdate = {
		month = october
		year = 1563
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1584
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Son of Klas Horn."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131810 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Klas Horn"
	startdate = {
		day = 7
		month = august
		year = 1564
	}
	deathdate = {
		month = september
		year = 1566
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 5
	shock = 5
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Perhaps the best Swedish admiral ever"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131817 }
	category = general
	name = "Karl Horn"
	startdate = {
		year = 1577
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 15
		month = may
		year = 1601
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
	remark = "Son of Henrik Horn. Both were tireless in Estland."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131815 }
	category = general
	name = "P. de La Gardie"
	startdate = {
		year = 1580
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 4
		month = november
		year = 1585
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131809 }
	category = general
	name = "Klas Fleming"
	startdate = {
		year = 1591
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 12
		month = april
		year = 1597
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 3
	fire = 2
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131816 }
	category = general
	name = "Karl"
	startdate = {
		year = 1598
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 20
		month = december
		year = 1605
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Karl IX before reign"
}

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#XVII century

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131820 }
	category = general
	name = "J. De la Gardie"
	startdate = {
		year = 1609
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1628
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 2
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Laiska-Jaakko. Son of Pontus de La Gardie"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131821 }
	category = general
	name = "Evert Horn"
	startdate = {
		year = 1611
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 29
		month = july
		year = 1615
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 2
	dormant = no
	remark = "Son of Karl Horn and daring friend of Jacob de La Gardie. One of the few Swedish siege experts."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131822 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Klas Fleming"
	startdate = {
		year = 1619
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 25
		month = july
		year = 1644
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131823 }
	category = monarch
	name = "Gustav II Adolf"
	startdate = {
		month = july
		year = 1621
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 6
		month = november
		year = 1632
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 6
	fire = 6
	shock = 5
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131824 }
	category = general
	name = "Gustav Horn"
	startdate = {
		month = may
		year = 1625
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1653
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131827 }
	category = general
	name = "Bernhard"
	startdate = {
		year = 1631
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 4
		month = september
		year = 1635
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 4
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
	remark = "...of Saxe-Weimar. Actually became a French general in 1635."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131825 }
	category = general
	name = "Banér"
	startdate = {
		year = 1634
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 9
		month = may
		year = 1641
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 5
	fire = 4
	shock = 5
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131847 }
	category = general
	name = "Bernhard"
	startdate = {
		day = 5
		month = september
		year = 1635
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 19
		month = july
		year = 1639
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 4
	siege = 1
	dormant = yes
	remark = "if France refuses to hire him..."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131855 }
	category = explorer
	name = "Anders Nilsson Krober"
	startdate = {
		year = 1637
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1638
	}
	rank = 7
	movement = 4
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	dormant = no
	remark = "Led first expedition to New Sweden"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131857 }
	category = conquistador
	name = "Peter Minuit"
	startdate = {
		year = 1637
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 4
		month = august
		year = 1638
	}
	rank = 4
	movement = 2
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Worked briefly for Sweden after leaving New Amsterdam"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131856 }
	category = explorer
	name = "Cornelis van Vliet"
	startdate = {
		year = 1639
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1641
	}
	rank = 7
	movement = 4
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Set out to find location of West Indies"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131858 }
	category = conquistador
	name = "Peter Ridder"
	startdate = {
		year = 1640
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1643
	}
	location = 86 #Delaware
	rank = 4
	movement = 2
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131830 }
	category = general
	name = "Königsmarck"
	startdate = {
		year = 1641
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1651
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Commander of the Flying Column"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131826 }
	category = general
	name = "Torstensson"
	startdate = {
		day = 30
		month = august
		year = 1641
	}
	deathdate = {
		month = december
		year = 1646
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 5
	fire = 5
	shock = 4
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131831 }
	category = conquistador
	name = "Johan Printz"
	startdate = {
		year = 1643
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1653
	}
	location = 86 #Delaware
	rank = 10
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 2
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131828 }
	category = general
	name = "Wrangel"
	startdate = {
		year = 1646
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 18
		month = june
		year = 1675
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 4
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131833 }
	category = monarch
	name = "Karl X Gustav"
	startdate = {
		year = 1648
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 12
		month = february
		year = 1660
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 5
	fire = 4
	shock = 4
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131829 }
	category = general
	name = "Wittenberg"
	startdate = {
		month = july
		year = 1655
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 6
		month = september
		year = 1657
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131834 }
	category = monarch
	name = "Karl XI"
	startdate = {
		month = april
		year = 1676
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 4
		month = april
		year = 1697
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 5
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#XVIII century

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131840 }
	category = monarch
	name = "Karl XII"
	startdate = {
		month = february
		year = 1700
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 29
		month = november
		year = 1718
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 5
	fire = 4
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131837 }
	category = general
	name = "Rehnskiöld"
	startdate = {
		month = february
		year = 1700
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 28
		month = february
		year = 1722
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131843 }
	category = general
	name = "Lewenhaupt"
	startdate = {
		year = 1701
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 11
		month = february
		year = 1719
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 1
	fire = 2
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131841 }
	category = general
	name = "Stenbock"
	startdate = {
		year = 1704
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 22
		month = february
		year = 1717
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131846 }
	category = general
	name = "Fersen"
	startdate = {
		day = 17
		month = august
		year = 1759
	}
	deathdate = {
		month = october
		year = 1759
	}
	rank = 3
	movement = 3
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131844 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Cronstedt"
	startdate = {
		year = 1789
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 2
		month = december
		year = 1801
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 2
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#XIX century

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131852 }
	category = general
	name = "Sandels"
	startdate = {
		day = 6
		month = april
		year = 1808
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1827
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131849 }
	category = general
	name = "Döbeln"
	startdate = {
		month = august
		year = 1808
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 15
		month = february
		year = 1820
	}
	rank = 2
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131854 }
	category = monarch
	name = "Karl XIV Johan"
	startdate = {
		day = 20
		month = august
		year = 1810
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 7
		month = march
		year = 1844
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = yes
	remark = "Also Bernadotte 049900 for France."
}

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#First free id: 0131859. 

Ids 0131806 0131807 0131808 0131812 0131813 0131818 0131819 0131830 0131832 0131835 0131836 0131838 0131839 0131842 0131845 0131848 0131850 0131851 0131853 are also free

unmerged(40707) · Oct 18, 2009

Is this based on last available 1.58 beta?

unmerged(80927) · Oct 18, 2009

YodaMaster said:
Is this based on last available 1.58 beta?

Why, yes.

But it doesn't make any difference even if it would have been from an earlier version, because, as far as I'm aware, no changes have been after 2006.

Toio · Oct 18, 2009

its a pity on sweden, i did a lot of work on events and monarch files
also port for candar
and lots of other stuff
etc etc

even if we do not include lombard culture all the rest is an enhancement.
i wonder if the 1.58 will ever be taken into FTG AGCEEP

pigglet82 · Oct 21, 2009

Legu said:
I've done some tweaking here and there and unless someone disagrees with my changes I'll submit this one as per the rules.

Nice compilation. Small suggestion would be to up Königsmarck's movement to 5 to represent him better. Even if you'd have to reduce fire or shock to not make him too powerful.

unmerged(80927) · Oct 21, 2009

I changed his maneuver value from 5 to 4 because I was under the impression that the abilities of the generals in EU2 only represent their tactical abilities. Königsmarck had skillful marches, outmaneuvering of enemies (like some imperial general in Saxony, I think) etc. Even during battle he was good but I don't know of any battles of him except Prague in 1648, where he did show himself a fairly good general even in the battlefield. I think he was quite helpful to Torstensson as well.

In any case, that's same reason why I reduced Sandels' maneuver value even further to 4. EU2 doesn't represent generals campaigning abilities. Some of the developers seem to think that, though. For example the English general Moore has a maneuver rating of 5, probably because of his retreat in the face of Soult, even though I think he only deserves a 4 or 3.

Norrefeldt · Oct 24, 2009

All great comments Legu! The leader file of Sweden needed som revision.

Perhaps Klas Fleming could start as leader when he was made lord high admiral in 1588?
Did Stålhandske have any independent commands? I vaguely recall discussing this fellow before, and that he was removed because he didn't.
For Adlercreutz, I think a lower rank than his final 1 could be used, as half his time as a leader was with lower rank. If we always use the final rank, a very small portion of the scale will be used.
Herman Wrangel had an independent command when he won at Gurzno 1629. I think that is merit enough.

When the first major overhaul of leaders was done in AGCEEP, for all Italian states, the standard of not including more than the family names, unless there is a risk to mix up several historical persons. Not that it was fully implemented for all countries, or that it is strictly necessary.

unmerged(80927) · Oct 26, 2009

Perhaps Klas Fleming could start as leader when he was made lord high admiral in 1588?

On the other hand he had no actual naval commands. At least I think so.

For Adlercreutz, I think a lower rank than his final 1 could be used, as half his time as a leader was with lower rank. If we always use the final rank, a very small portion of the scale will be used.

Are we looking at the same post

. I removed him for #47.

Why? Well, he only won battles when he outnumbered the Russians and when he had a good subordinate with him, like Döbeln. In those victories he was also way too cautious and failed to pursue them when they were defeated. He also lost the important battle, Oravais.

When the first major overhaul of leaders was done in AGCEEP, for all Italian states, the standard of not including more than the family names, unless there is a risk to mix up several historical persons. Not that it was fully implemented for all countries, or that it is strictly necessary.

Well, I don't think first names are very important but then again, unless those names are long, they don't do any harm, do they?. They're important for those Horns, of course.

I've changed Cronstedt's and Döbeln's rank as per your suggestion for Adlercreutz. Also removed the unnecessarily long names for those explorers. Bernhard's rank was corrected, as it should have been 1 like his other Swedish incarnation.

Code:

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131847 }
	category = general
	name = "Bernhard"
	startdate = {
		day = 5
		month = september
		year = 1635
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 19
		month = july
		year = 1639
	}
	rank = [COLOR="Red"]0[/COLOR] [COLOR="Yellow"]1[/COLOR]
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 4
	siege = 1
	dormant = yes
	remark = "if France refuses to hire him..."
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131855 }
	category = explorer
	name = "[COLOR="Red"]Anders Nilsson[/COLOR] Krober"
	startdate = {
		year = 1637
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1638
	}
	rank = 7
	movement = 4
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	dormant = no
	remark = "Led first expedition to New Sweden"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131856 }
	category = explorer
	name = "[COLOR="Red"]Cornelis van[/COLOR] Vliet"
	startdate = {
		year = 1639
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1641
	}
	rank = 7
	movement = 4
	fire = 2
	shock = 2
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
	remark = "Set out to find location of West Indies"
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131844 }
	category = admiral
	name = "Cronstedt"
	startdate = {
		year = 1789
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 2
		month = december
		year = 1801
	}
	rank = [COLOR="Red"]2[/COLOR] [COLOR="Yellow"]3[/COLOR]
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 2
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131849 }
	category = general
	name = "Döbeln"
	startdate = {
		month = august
		year = 1808
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 15
		month = february
		year = 1820
	}
	rank = [COLOR="Red"]2[/COLOR] [COLOR="Yellow"]3[/COLOR]
	movement = 4
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}

Herman Wrangel had an independent command when he won at Gurzno 1629. I think that is merit enough.

Ok

Code:

[COLOR="Yellow"]historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0131819 }
	category = general
	name = "Herman Wrangel"
	startdate = {
                day = 7
                month = august
		year = 1627
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1631
	}
	rank = 1
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}[/COLOR]

I agree he merits being a leader.

Norrefeldt · Oct 26, 2009

Fine. I don't feel strongly about how the names are configured either, as long as they fit into the box. I think there once was a scprit tip for that, that I have forgotten.

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