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nobodyinparticular

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Northern Europe is often brought up as a region that could need a do-over. It used to be that when it was brought up that people would counter that southeast asia, subsaharan africa, the new world and korea needed an upgrade more badly, which I very much agree with. It's nice that those regions got new formables, missions, flavor events, mechanics etc.

But now that those dire regions got a makeover, I'd say it's fair to have a minor scandi-baltic update, and I was wondering what some of the more popular demands are. Some ideas I had:

- expansion of finnish cores to include rovaniemi, kajanaland and enare
- "development of helsinki" mission available for sweden, finland and united scandinavia which adds a level 1 centre of trade to nyland and renames it to helsinki if it's been brought up to 15 dev and used up all building slots. Historically it wasn't really developed until right after the game's timeline ends but it'd be some neat flavor to make it more prominent before that.
- "nordification" of karelian culture if all karelian provinces are owned by a nordic country (could work through a mission or event)
- a shared colonization mission tree for the nordic countries, doesn't have to be too expansive or powerful. Something like automatically discovering greenland and getting temp colonial range + settler growth when you get your first colonist, then when you've colonized greenland you get a bigger settler growth bonus (still temporary) but only in the canadian region. Then you get a mission for owning at least 15-20% of the fur trade, giving mercantilism and a temp modifier of trade steering, stuff like that.
- "unite scandinavia" mission available to all nordic countries when owning at least X amount of nordic provinces + some necessary prominent ones like sjaelland, lund, stockholm, akershus. Would give temporary -0.05 monthly autonomy change and -2 national unrest
- unique ideas for a united scandinavia that are strong and interesting but not too busted, something like +15% infantry CA (so it's still below sweden's), +10% shock damage, +15% manpower and sailors, +10% ship durability, +25% domestic trade power, +15% trade efficiency, +33% colonial range and may recruit explorers, +25% naval FL, -1 national unrest, 10% tax modifier. Waiting for someone to tell me this is too weak and for another to say it's too strong.

I have to admit, I can't think of anything good for the baltic specifically, but I'm sure others have good ideas. Go spitball a bit.
 
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I would love to see some events that recreate the rivalies between Sweden-Denmark and Sweden-Russia (CB on Denmark, Russia and vice versa)
 
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I would like it that it wouldn't be mandatory in the mission tree for Sweden to form Scandinavia, but to focus on expanding the Swedish Empire instead. More diversity in the Scandinavian mission trees, that they all don't end up with the same goal - forming Scandinavia.

Norwegian mission tree focusing on colonisation and playing tall.

Danish mission tree focusing on uniting Scandinavia and expanding its influence in the Baltic.

A mission tree for Courland to colonise the Americas, Senegal and Australia.

An option for Lithuania to become Romuva (AI would always stay Catholic).

An option for Norway and Iceland to become Asatru (AI would always stay Catholic).
 
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Something Scandinavia needs IMO is something to make them go Protestant more often. It is the historical outcome, but as it stands, even when the Centers of Reformation actually decide to spend time converting provinces in Scandinavia, it is all too rare for them to actually convert, especially if Denmark still has the PU's.

And as a companion to this, Protestantism needs a buff or Catholicism a nerf. Catholicism being better than the alternatives is bad for the game, because switching away from it is hassle enough even when you aren't also gimping yourself by doing it.
 
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I have a great suggestion. Remove provinces from north america and give it to Scandinavia. A region the average player wont ever interact with beyond colonization if even that wouldnt mind losing a few of its bajillion provinces.
Personally, I feel if they're really going to stick to the crurrent province count, they could take away provinces from Australia and give them to Scandinavia. Australia was not all that relevant in the game's timeframe and the native tags there were an unnecessary addition. Provinces in North America could be shifted to South America and some of the more relevant tags of Africa instead.
 
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