Savoy culture|Ethnic

[Zandraak]

Hello,

Just for know, you will put Savoyen as Allobroges or "french" ? (they're not french and fight for 1.000 years against them for liberty)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allobroges

I think put a real culture and ethnic can be great for this Kingdom no?

Cordialy, a Fan !

 

[FranzVonG]

Allobroges? So Spanish should be Celtiberians?
Savoyards are Occitan (Franco-Provencal)

 

[Rhomaioi]

Another culture was already suggested for Corsica in another thread; they can't add a new culture for every minor dialect that exists in the world, sadly.

 

[Mavi2]

Same as Turks not being Semitic?

 

[Mattbzh]

Since when the Turks were semitic?
errrr.... never as I recall, they're Turco-altaic.

 

[unmerged(584823)]

Hello,

Just for know, you will put Savoyen as Allobroges or "french" ? (they're not french and fight for 1.000 years against them for liberty)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allobroges

I think put a real culture and ethnic can be great for this Kingdom no?

Cordialy, a Fan !

Allobroges ? Doesn't make sense.
Arpitan would be better, but the problem is that, while the country of Savoya was, in majority italian, the region of Savoya (in the Alps, Chambèry, Annecy etc) spoke Arpitan and had a very hybrid culture.

 

[Theddude]

Since when the Turks were semitic?
errrr.... never as I recall, they're Turco-altaic.

It's culture group, not language group. It's to give the Turks an advantage ruling in the Middle East, and to simulate the deep influences of Arabic/Islamic culture on Turkish culture. Besides the Arab revolt in WWI they pretty much didn't have the same kind of problems in Syria etc. that they had in the Balkans. For game purposes the Turks are in basically a "Middle Eastern non-Persian" group, they just need a more concise name.

 

[Sun_Wu]

Another culture was already suggested for Corsica in another thread; they can't add a new culture for every minor dialect that exists in the world, sadly.

MEIOU and Taxes has both Corsican and Arpitan

 

[unmerged(584823)]

MEIOU and Taxes has both Corsican and Arpitan

With corsican in the Italian group and Arpitan as independant ?

 

[Sun_Wu]

With corsican in the Italian group and Arpitan as independant ?

Yes
Occitano-Romance

 

[lemonsquid]

Another culture was already suggested for Corsica in another thread; they can't add a new culture for every minor dialect that exists in the world, sadly.

I demand New Jerseyian, Staten Islander, Brooklyner, Texan, Californian, Bostonite, etc etc!!!

 

[unmerged(584823)]

Yes
Occitano-Romance

Great : I didn't know this, thanks for the info

I demand New Jerseyian, Staten Islander, Brooklyner, Texan, Californian, Bostonite, etc etc!!!

If you are not joking, you just went full retard, but if you did, it's okay.

 

[Sun_Wu]

Great : I didn't know this, thanks for the info



If you are not joking, you just went full retard, but if you did, it's okay.

For Italian languages there will be Piedmontese, Ligurian, Corsican, Sardinian, Lombard, Venetian, Friulian, Dalmatian, Emilian, Tuscan, Umbrian, Neapolitan, Sicilian and not exactly historically Maltese.

 

[unmerged(584823)]

For Italian languages there will be Piedmontese, Ligurian, Corsican, Sardinian, Lombard, Venetian, Friulian, Dalmatian, Emilian, Tuscan, Umbrian, Neapolitan, Sicilian and not exactly historically Maltese.

Well, this seems great (unless for Maltese, they should really have a specific group). I really think this MEIOU and Taxes will be the next big thing. Greatest overhaul mod ever made for a Paradox game, maybe.

 

[Wheeler711]

If you are not joking, you just went full retard, but if you did, it's okay.

Don't be so dense man.

Also do we always have to go through threads like these? Like seriously every paradox game that has ever came out has had threads such as this one complaining about borders, provinces, cultures and religion. They almost never change it so stop whining and just mod it when the game comes out. Or wait for a mod such as Death & Taxes to be released.

 

[unmerged(584823)]

Don't be so dense man.

Also do we always have to go through threads like these? Like seriously every paradox game that has ever came out has had threads such as this one complaining about borders, provinces, cultures and religion. They almost never change it so stop whining and just mod it when the game comes out. Or wait for a mod such as Death & Taxes to be released.

So you are not joking...

They change a lot of things, not everything, sure, but just as watching France (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?706587-Love-from-France-!&highlight=), and also Switzerland, I can see a lot of differences, and there was just a bit of "complain" about it.
I'm paying for a game, I don't have to wait for a mod to have a good game, (though MEIOU and Taxes will be great). Paradox listen to their community, so it's better to talk to them and to try to find out a solution to the problems we got.

 

[Sun_Wu]

Well, this seems great (unless for Maltese, they should really have a specific group). I really think this MEIOU and Taxes will be the next big thing. Greatest overhaul mod ever made for a Paradox game, maybe.

The consequences of Maltese being it's own culture cause more ahistorical things than it simply being Maltese Italian

 

[lemonsquid]

So you are not joking...

They change a lot of things, not everything, sure, but just as watching France (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?706587-Love-from-France-!&highlight=), and also Switzerland, I can see a lot of differences, and there was just a bit of "complain" about it.
I'm paying for a game, I don't have to wait for a mod to have a good game, (though MEIOU and Taxes will be great). Paradox listen to their community, so it's better to talk to them and to try to find out a solution to the problems we got.

it is true that you are paying for the game, and you are now aware of what waits for you in the game, so if you dont like it and they never change it then its your fault! muahahaha

 

[Brownbeard]

For Italian languages there will be Piedmontese, Ligurian, Corsican, Sardinian, Lombard, Venetian, Friulian, Dalmatian, Emilian, Tuscan, Umbrian, Neapolitan, Sicilian and not exactly historically Maltese.

Not to be too technical, but Venetian and Romance Dalmatian should be in the group with Catalan and not with Italian.

 

[Sun_Wu]

Not to be too technical, but Venetian and Romance Dalmatian should be in the group with Catalan and not with Italian.

Um last time I checked to be technical Italio-Dalmatian was Dalmatian, Venetian, Tuscan (and thus Standard Italian), Central Italian (Umbrian in game), Neapolitan, Sicilian and Corsican. Sardinian should be its own group,and there should be a Gallo-Italian composed of Piedmontese, Lombard, Ligurian, Emilian. Friuli should be an isolate because though there are other relatives none are large enough to represent.

Sometimes making the game have more plausible outcomes comes before technical linguistic accuracy; you can't make an omelet without cracking a few eggs.