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I saved a file last night and tried to load it this morning. When I selected the country to play and clicked start, these errors appeared in the 'Reading Scenario' stage. I clicked 'ignore' after each error.

(unknown lhs in scenario file (titleholder)) 'year = 1156' line = 900211
(unknown lhs in scenario file (title)) 'month = september' line = 900211
(Illegal top level object) 'day = 25' line = 900211
--Database Mismatch--

The game then crashed. I've saved this save and the previous one if anybody wants them.

Edit: I've found this in the file:
Code:
title = { 
    tag = SVIG 
    tier = duchy 
    liege = DENM 
    holder = { character = NONE startdate = { year = 1156 month = september day = 25 } enddate = { year = 1157 month = april day = 13 } } 
    }
 
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Do you have any idea what happened?

EDIT: I saw you have previous save.

Can you reproduce this from the previous save?
Is there anything odd with duchy of Slesvig?
 

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Unfortunately, I've just found out that the previous save has the same error. However, I have a save before that one. It is around five years prior to the buggy saves.

It looks like the Beydom of Skane holds Jylland and the Duchy of Saxony holds Slesvig. I don't see anyone holding the title for "Duchy of Slesvig"; not even in the King of Denmark's screen.

Poking into the working save, I've learned some things:
Code:
title = { 
    tag = SVIG 
    tier = duchy 
    liege = DENM 
    holder = { character = { type = 4712 id = 280149 } startdate = { year = 1156 month = september day = 25 } enddate = { year = 1157 month = april day = 13 } } 
    }
The title of Duke of Slesvig is held by 4712:280149.

Code:
title = { 
    tag = C296 
    tier = county 
    liege = NORW 
    holder = { character = { type = 4712 id = 280149 } startdate = { year = 1158 month = december day = 8 } } 
    claim = { id = { type = 4712 id = 261652 } character = { type = 4712 id = 171041 } } 
    }
This man also holds the title of Count/Bishop of Viken.

Code:
country = { 
    tag = C296 
    lastpeace = { year = 1160 month = september day = 11 } 
    lastwar = { year = 0 month = january day = 0 } 
    badboy = 0.000 
    form_of_goverment = ecclestical 
    capital = 296 
    tier = county 
    ruler = { character = { type = 4712 id = 280149 } startdate = { year = 1160 month = september day = 11 } } 
    laws = { elective_law = yes traditional_custom_law = yes ecclesical_balance = yes } 
    warfare_dev_focus = 4 
    production_dev_focus = 17 
    culture_dev_focus = 26 
    scutage = 0.000 
    crown_duty = 0.550 
    census_tax = 0.550 
    tolls = 0.600 
    upkeep = 1.000 
    church = 0.450 
    controlledprovinces = { 296 } 
    }
His county is a bishopric.

Code:
character = { 
    id = { type = 4712 id = 280149 } 
    dyn = 13076 
    tag = C296 
    name = "Ottavio" 
    home = 333 
    date = "11110827" 
    gender = male 
    religion = catholic 
    culture = "italian" 
    score = { gold = 244.426 prestige = -370.924 piety = 1.448 } 
    attributes = { 
        martial = 4.000 
        diplomacy = 6.000 
        intrigue = 7.000 
        stewardship = 6.000 
        health = 4.000 
        fertility = 7.000 
        } 
    traits = { chaste = yes sceptical = yes martial_cleric = yes } 
    loyalty = 1.000 
    dna = "94630210994795" 
    }
His name is Ottavio Prodi, an Italian Catholic.

EDIT: There are two in the save with his dynasty code. Neither shows a mother or father, one has no home and can't be found, and the other is a courtier in Ostergotland. The visible courtier has no relatives listed, at all.

Back in the game, I see nothing in his screen about Slesvig. He has no listed heirs and his courtiers have no claims or heirs. I've been playing Byzantine, so I'm not exactly sure what might have caused this. The only thing I know is, after editing the save to give the title to Denmark, that the Duke of Ostergotland holds Viken and Ottavio is nowhere to be found in more recent saves.

OT: How do I put those accents on characters to make province searches more effective?
 
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I think the bug is that somehow (dunno how) duchy of Slesvig became marked as owned by bishop of Viken in the files, while not being anywhere in sight otherwise. This does not immidiately crash, but when Ottavio dies, duchy of Slesvig suddenly has no owner leading to the situation.

Regarding a possible fix, try removing whole this:
Code:
title = { 
    tag = SVIG 
    tier = duchy 
    liege = DENM 
    holder = { character = NONE startdate = { year = 1156 month = september day = 25 } enddate = { year = 1157 month = april day = 13 } } 
    }
from the save file, to see if it works then.
 

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Removing the entry seems to work. I didn't try that the first time, though.

The first time I replaced NONE with the character info for the King of Denmark. I figured it would be the least possible way to damage anything since the liege listed was DENM.

I'm just happy that both ways work and I can continue my purple streak. :D