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[Castellon]

Number of posts does not equate to your IQ, so you don't have all the answers because you were here before.

Ain't that the truth.

Such comments are exactly what drive people away of countless forums.

We are generally known for being a very friendly forum, I don't think anything in this thread has go too far, and being called a newbie is not nec. derogatory, after all we were all newbies at one point.
But often when you assume you make an ASS out of U and ME.

 

[unmerged(21429)]

Would you please stop complaining about AI cheats? AI is so stupid that there are no difficulties beating it even with a minor or a tech-retard. If you can't beat the AI on very hard, try easier levels of difficulty.

If AI wouldn't be able to cheat on troop support limit and naval attrition, this game would be absolutely too easy.

When I first posted my inquiry, I was not even sure if the A.I. was cheating, I wasn't quite sure what was exactly happening. That being said, I don't have such a big problem with it, I am just glad to know what is going on.

I really don't think that small provinces having a large army is a big deal, the only issue with the "A.I. cheat" of no maintainance is when very large countries build massive armies, that can get kinda rough.

But all in all, now that I know that it is just help for the computer, it really isnt' a big deal-wether you realize it or not, it is more fun to play against a challenge than to win easily

 

[doktarr]

On the problem of the dumb AI, I remember a time in which the AI dropped massive armies on territories with an huge attrition, and laying sieges loosing tens of thousands troops. They don't anymore. Why ? Because Our Mighty Divine Lord Johan improved it. So, stop telling it's impossible to get a better AI, because it has already been improved.

Of course the AI can be improved. The issue is that it will never improve enough to make up the gap between it, and reasonably competent human play. (Again, barring quantum computers or a breakthrough in AI programming paradigms.)

 

[unmerged(25996)]

Of course the AI can be improved. The issue is that it will never improve enough to make up the gap between it, and reasonably competent human play. (Again, barring quantum computers or a breakthrough in AI programming paradigms.)

Really? How do you know? As I have stated in previous posts I have noticed improvements in the AI. For example, the AI no longer keeps building armies beyond the attrition limit, though they do still cheat on maintenance.

People say things like, "If the AI didn't cheat on sea attrition, they would lose all their navies." Why? Taking attrition into account does not require a supercomputer nor genius. You simply have an idea how far a fleet can go without stopping in port. The code for that is not much. I agree that improved AI does take time, that people will always complain and it is possible the devs do not believe the effort is worth it, but statements that it can't be done or it will make the game too slow are empty.

The decisions made in this game are not epiphanies, they are logically constructed from simple rules. Computers are very good at that and the computer knows more than the player, for example how many days does it take the ship to cross the zone. The player may determine this by experimenting, but the computer already knows it.

 

[Carolus Rex]

Number of posts does not equate to your IQ, so you don't have all the answers because you were here before.

Ouch! I am insulted!

 

[unmerged(6147)]

People say things like, "If the AI didn't cheat on sea attrition, they would lose all their navies." Why? Taking attrition into account does not require a supercomputer nor genius.

This appears at least partially to be a comment to what I wrote.

If you reread my post you will see at top the quote I was responding to, it said:

"turn AI cheats off" button would be enough to keep us all happy

It didn't say: turn off the cheats button ... and improve the AI.

We all want the AI improved.
It is not impossible to improve it.

These are very simple truths. How anyone can believe that anyone else does not agree upon that is mindboggling.

Regarding the navy attrition cheat Johan has several times, as we oldies know , stated that he hasn't got the time to fix it.

Unless someone sends Paradox a $100.000 cheque or e.g. CK turns out to be a smashing hit selling in tens of thousands we will have to live with that particular cheat.

 

[MarshalN]

These are very simple truths. How anyone can believe that anyone else does not agree upon that is mindboggling.

Regarding the navy attrition cheat Johan has several times, as we oldies know , stated that he hasn't got the time to fix it.

Daniel A, while I agree with you on your points as to their correctness, I have to say the way you say things (like the above-quoted lines) is offensive to most of us who read it, not least the one to whom this is directed.

Maybe you should think about the way you phrase things which may make your point more easily acceptable instead of throwing out the "I am smarter than you" line which you seem to so favour. When someone has clearly said he's not a newbie, I think reemphasizing that (by saying you're an oldie, i.e. the other people are newbies) seems to serve no purpose except to provoke an angry response from yet another offended fellow forumer. I am just pointing this out now in order to preempt another round of heated debate which serve no real purpose except to insult and inflame others.

 

[unmerged(25996)]

This appears at least partially to be a comment to what I wrote.

If you reread my post you will see at top the quote I was responding to, it said:

"turn AI cheats off" button would be enough to keep us all happy

It didn't say: turn off the cheats button ... and improve the AI.

We all want the AI improved.
It is not impossible to improve it.

These are very simple truths. How anyone can believe that anyone else does not agree upon that is mindboggling.

Regarding the navy attrition cheat Johan has several times, as we oldies know , stated that he hasn't got the time to fix it.

Unless someone sends Paradox a $100.000 cheque or e.g. CK turns out to be a smashing hit selling in tens of thousands we will have to live with that particular cheat.

I am not sure why you think my comment was directed at you. I think a TURN OFF AI CHEATS button is a good solution and agree that the choice should make everyone happy.

 

[doktarr]

I am not sure why you think my comment was directed at you. I think a TURN OFF AI CHEATS button is a good solution and agree that the choice should make everyone happy.

Wow.

You may want to read the post you were responding to again.

 

[Castellon]

Okay I see this thread is just going to degenerate, so I will put a stop to it before I have to start handing out warnings, since i do not like to have to do that.

I think the answers have all been given anyway.
1) If you do not like the AI cheating on support play on very easy.
2) The AI cheat on naval attrition (which I dislike as well, but have learned to live with ) will not be changed.

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