When you are playing Serbia and Germany unites with Austria and allies England. Heeeeeeeeelp!
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When you're Mexico for the first time and about to annex Texas but then the USA intervenes.
Or when you're Mongolia and trying to restore the legacy of the Khagans but Russia and Qing curbstomp your unciv face in.
When you go over 25 infamy without realizing it because you added a wargoal to a war going very well.
Honestly, the infamy system needs a rework. It is absurd sometimes
It ruined my acquisition of half of Austria one time when I was playing as the North German Federation.
It's absurd when one province (not one state, a province) of 30k POP can cost 22 infamy (Makran). Not when you're trying to eat half of Central Europe and throw off the whole balance of power -_-
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The infamy system is fine for European wars, even in the times of blood and Iron, nations rarely grabbed regions from one another in Europe outright (the 'Liberation' of Alsace-Lorraine in 1870 being an obvious example, the German government got a bit of heat from the rest of Europe for it) But it makes no sense in relation to Colonial wars in Asia/ Sub Saharan Africa. I think there should be different infamy systems for civilised, uncivilised and primitive nations. For example Britain seizing Hong Kong through the first opium war was well recieved or passed little comment to most great powers in Europe at the time, due to the "opening of trade" that was spouted as the reason for it. All wars are infamous, but some are more infamous then others.....
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When you want to Manifest Destiny as USA but UK has Mexico in Sphere and France keeps discrediting you in Mexico.
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Because you're a disgusting uncivilised mob and can't claim to be bringing any civilised light to anywhere. That's why, you're probably the kind of nation that doesn't know how to use a fish fork and sets dinner with the same spoons for soup and dessert...
In all seriousness though, a 20 infamy hit is ridiculous for any nation doing just about anything. Although I still think that it should be difficult for uncivs to take territory, especially as 'savage' aggression was also used as an excuse by European powers to step in and restore order (albeit under their rule)
Also, justifying wars. The RNG is completely unreliable and only serves to aggravate rather than bring uncertainty
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If only I could justify a war because the nation has an opposite religion than me!
Jihads anyone?
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That's nothing. Now, when you have 5x Pandemic Influenza in close succession.......
