Sabaton Music Pack

[Neoton]

 

[DmUa]

What I find applies to most metal bands of their thematic area is that their lyrics are purposefully over the top to the point of being cringeworthy (remember Manowar?). I wouldn't call them satire per se, but when comparing most of these bands "in-character" and "out-of-character", one often finds that their intent is either more focused on just storytelling or something kind of satirical. While I'm sure they exist, I personally am not familiar with any martial-metal-with-historical-references-band that actively tries to push a nationalistic/violence-glorifying message.

Which of course is not to say they can't be understood as such, but then again, that's down to the listener who for all intents and purposes should be assumed to be an educated, mature human being possessing a degree of media awareness.

- true to that, but i just talked about mine own perception of the group and their typical fans. Sabaton just doesn't suit my taste in music and comments section in their YouTube videos... terrify me.

 

[Rhel]

- true to that, but i just talked about mine own perception of the group and their typical fans. Sabaton just doesn't suit my taste in music and comments section in their YouTube videos... terrify me.

Yeah, the comment section on their videos is typically pretty terrible. Mind you they do also have quite a few songs that are anything but glorifying (Gallipoli, Final Solution, We Burn are the ones that come to mind for me.)
Personally I Kind of like them and even sometimes listen to them in the background, but seeing as how I already own their stuff I'm reasonably sure I'll skip this DLC
I can also understand perfectly well why a lot of people might just find them cringy.

 

[Seelmeister]

Let's draw a line under this Crimean War debate - it's hostile in tone and off topic. We are discussing music packs for EUIV in this thread.

 

[RhaegarTelcontarTargaryen]

This made me smile and happy. Finally it happened. I remember how I spoke with few friends how cool it would be if they added Sabaton music to Cruader Kings 2. Well, this is not bad either.. given that I still do not have EUIV, it doesn't affect me personally (although I already own all of the songs on original discs, both english and swedish version.. )

but just big happy thanks for my favorite game developer teaming up with one of my favorite bands.

I'm guessing by the names that they're the English versions? Pity, even as a Brit, I think the Carolus Rex album sounds better in Swedish.

I actually started learning Swedish (mostly) because of it..well that, my Scandinavian obsession, and a few other bands as well.


I know that not all people like metal, and especially not metal music that is on a bit of extreme side of it, but I do think that some certain songs from Sabaton, Ensiferum, Falconer, Manegarm, Equilibrium and many others could totally add flavor to the game, be it CK2, EUIV or HOI3/4.

 

[TheDungen]

Karl XII had the advantage of what was perhpas the finest army in Europe, though he certainly was a fine general. A terrible king, mind you, but a fine general.

Exactly, the true military genius in the carolean era is Carl XI, he created an army which would the model for armies for over a century and he never lost a battle (mainly because he only fought one).

- err... yes? I dont really like Sabaton, i find their war glorifying songs to be distasteful and mainly targeted at certain crowd. I just pointed out of 5 songs selected by Pdx, 4 are from Carolus Rex album, and out of those 4, 3 are about Swedish Space Marines and their Primarch - Tyranosaurus Karl but for some rAISIn unexplained non of those 3 are Poltava. He He He.

They don't glorify war, listen to lifetime of war, cliffs of gallipoli and so on.
"Religion and greed cause millions to bleed" /Lifetime of War
"Theres is no enemy there is no victory, only boys who lost their lives in the sand". /Cliffs of Gallipoli
They give a far more realistic and nuanced picture of war than paradox GSGs does.
And as far as I know those three songs are about diffrent people, Carolus Rex is about the coronation of Carl XI (who came to power after the worst regency council ever), Caroleans Prayer is about the campaigns waged by Carl XII, and the lion of the north is Gustav II Adolf.

 

[Kalderus]

I always knew this collaboration was inevitable, and happier for it. Next though, to improve horde playthroughs, Paradox NEEDS to partner with the Mongolian/Turkic folk metal band, Tengger Cavalry. I mean, who couldn't imagine charging forth with tens of thousands of horse archers to recreate Temujin's conquests whilst hearing this? :

 

[Korashy]

Starts first game, gets greeted by metal... i'm like fuck yeah, let's conquer this world. Love it.

 

[Tabrisanobi]

Ok it's official. I LOVE EU IV. Sabaton is an amazing band which focuses on history and warfare yet doesn't glorify it, it tries to tell it as it was/is. Lifetime of War in particular is a VERY moving song about the 30-Years-War. I hope they continue to add more DLC like this in the future (HOPEFULLY VERY SOON!). There'll always be nay-sayers who feel it breaks the immersion. To those folks I say this: Simply don't buy the DLC. ^_^

 

[TheDungen]

Ok it's official. I LOVE EU IV. Sabaton is an amazing band which focuses on history and warfare yet doesn't glorify it, it tries to tell it as it was/is. Lifetime of War in particular is a VERY moving song about the 30-Years-War. I hope they continue to add more DLC like this in the future (HOPEFULLY VERY SOON!). There'll always be nay-sayers who feel it breaks the immersion. To those folks I say this: Simply don't buy the DLC. ^_^

And yet it is far better in swedish.

 

[Grand Historian]

Which makes me dread stellaris where the standard game track seems to be electronic...

The only rock track I can think of that would be appropriate for Stellaris would be 2112.

 

[Korashy]

I only wish there was a button to skip to the next song. As much as I love the Vicky 2 music, sometimes it gets a bit irritating when I'm trying to check on my factories to realize capitalism isn't a thing.

 

[TheDungen]

The only rock track I can think of that would be appropriate for Stellaris would be 2112.

Then a classical score, nice and neutral. With electronic music as DLCs, for the people who like that stuff.

 

[Grand Historian]

Then a classical score, nice and neutral. With electronic music as DLCs, for the people who like that stuff.

Agreed. This should be Paradox policy for all games, really.

 

[Tedurur]

I think you are over valuing Carl XII, now Carl XI he'd have loads of pips.

I think you are underestimating him. The Swedes were almost always outnumbered by 3:1 during Karl XIIs reign. While superior discipline and military training help to even the odds it would all have been for nought without very able commander. Had Karl XII not been injured before the battle of Poltava then the outcome could very well have been different (Although Russian winter probably would have sawed them anyway). He was a poor ruler but a good commander, that maybe overestimated his abilities slightly. In hindsight he should ofc have accepted Russias fairly generous peace deal after the Russian defeat at Narva.

 

[TheDungen]

I think you are underestimating him. The Swedes were almost always outnumbered by 3:1 during Karl XIIs reign. While superior discipline and military training help to even the odds it would all have been for nought without very able commander. Had Karl XII not been injured before the battle of Poltava then the outcome could very well have been different (Although Russian winter probably would have sawed them anyway). He was a poor ruler but a good commander, that maybe overestimated his abilities slightly. In hindsight he should ofc have accepted Russias fairly generous peace deal after the Russian defeat at Narva.

In the words of Sun Tzu to fight and conquer in every battle is not supreme excellence, supreme excellence is to win without fighting. Carl XII was a good fighter but his father had supreme excellence. Yet everyone blather about Carl XII when Carl XI was the real hero of the carolingian era.

 

[BarskiPatzow]

Add in the Trooper by Iron Maiden then.

Also: run to the hills for colonizers.

 

[Kapitalisti]

Also: run to the hills for colonizers.

Or when you're playing a native nation and make first contact with Europeans.

 

[satyrlord]

The only rock track I can think of that would be appropriate for Stellaris would be 2112.

I disagree, there are tons of rock and metal bands that belong in a sci-fi game. From the top of my head, I can name Meshuggah, Cynic, Mechina and Gojira but anything in the categories of space rock, technical death, industrial metal, post-rock, post-metal, darkwave, coldwave etc.

 

[Metallord]

I disagree, there are tons of rock and metal bands that belong in a sci-fi game. From the top of my head, I can name Meshuggah, Cynic, Mechina and Gojira but anything in the categories of space rock, technical death, industrial metal, post-rock, post-metal, darkwave, coldwave etc.

Fear factory would fit in Nice too