Chapter 6: For the horde!!!!
This chapter is dedicated to the green horde of Crimea. For the horde!!!!
Crimea has been beat up by several nations, ever since we annulled their alliance with the Ottomans. They got reduced to a fraction of the size they once were…
Time to subjugate the horde
I declared conquest war on them, with a claim I was able to fabricate from the port province I took from Circassia in the first Ottoman war. I told you that province would come in handy
The alliance (partner) does a very good job at invading the horde… I didn’t even have the time yet to send my own troops to help out. The alliance triumphs
The horde got vassalised without a sweat. Note that the horde didn’t reform yet, so umm.. The horde is still a horde
I made an alliance with Venice, since Venice is a rival of the Ottomans. When I declare on Ottomans, Venice will join in. But I won’t declare on the Ottomans yet. First Byzantium has to complete integrating.
I want to declare on Ottomans with holy war cb, and not with reconquest. This would enable me to make 0 diplo cost separate peace deals with the allies of the Ottomans
Crimea has cores all over the place. First easy victim to feed to the horde, was Circassia. Other nations were attacking them aswell, so this should be easy
Meanwhile I started a front in Asia again. I declared on Shun and Miao in former Ming territory. It dragged a few other nations in. Shun was weakened by an attack from other nations. Got to be opportunistic, as always
It’s a holy war versus Shun, since I own an uncored province near them. Miao was a pagan nation, so I could use exploration cb versus them.
I forgot to make screenshots of some separate peace deals in Asia. Bottom line is: Shun got reduced to OPM and its provinces got divided between Pegu and Lan Xang. Lan Xang has a few uncorable provinces now, but we’ll resolve that soon enough!
I kinda forgot I couldn’t transfer occupation to Crimea since I used holy war cb
I thought Crimea had a core in Circassia, but I forgot I took that core myself. Stupid mistake. Should have used a conquest war, then I could have transferred occupation to Crimea. Silly me. Now I got to core all of this stuff myself… The horde wasn’t happy either
IMPORTANT TIP: If you fabricate a claim on a nation, or if you declare reconquest war on a nation, you can ALWAYS transfer the wargoal province to any nation that participates in the war, after occupying it.
First of all, it allows you to circumnavigate the changes to transfer occupation. And also, it allows you to feed subjects stuff on other continents with reduced coring cost for them doing so.
How to? Declare conquest/reconquest war on a nation FOR A PORT PROVINCE. Occupy the war target. You can now transfer occupation of that port province to any subject you got.
Once that is done, you can transfer all you occupied to that subject.
Result? Lets assume you fabricated claim on Tunis in north Africa. You can then transfer Tunis province to your vassal Byzantium, and after that the entire nation you wage war on. Make a peace deal that feeds entire nation (all except capital) to Byzantium.
Benefit? Byzantium will now core that land in North Africa, and your subject will pay the double coring cost for all berber land in North Africa. BUT, Byzantium also gets reduced coring cost for that NA land, since its overseas land in other continent.
In the end you can feed Byzantium entire Africa should you desire. This as an example on how to use this mechanic. Its WAD, btw. And you will likely have to help them killing rebels there. But its worth it to save monarch points! Let someone else pay the double coring cost, and then integrate them.
Late game, you can feed colonizer subjects stuff on mainland Asia this way, and feed India or whatnot to them, using this tactic.
Note that the nation you feed overseas provinces to, should have full religious ideas (Portugal or so) and it MUST have a colony in coring range of the province you feed them.
Byzantium integrated. That gave me the holy war CB versus Ottomans.
I almost forgot I could call for a crusade on the Ottomans, since I’m papal controller (for now). So… Crusade!
And what a crusade… Venice, England and Austria joined in for crusade. Persia, Astrakhan, Golden horde and Savoy tried to stop them. Note that Savoy got called in since Ottomans were in coalition, and Savoy aswell.
We outnumber the infidels! Lets march!
MMM that’s some nice bonuses. In his religious zeal, Franz Von Habsburg slaughtered the Savoyard army. Err Austria, the infidels are *that* -----> way
But thanks for occupying them with small stacks nevertheless.
Time to abuse the coalition mechanic a little bit in Asia
Huai and Wu joined coalition versus Yue. I joined the coalition aswell, and immediately declared crusade on Yue. Huai and Wu now HELP me versus Yue.. and ALL THEIR ALLIES. The plan was to use Wu as meat shield versus Yue, and to occupy all the allies of Yue asap, to be able to do 0 dip separate peaces with them.
IMPORTANT TIP: If you declare war versus a nation after joining a coalition versus them, you can NOT ask their provinces in the peace deal. But you CAN make separate peaces with their ALLIES, and ask their provinces! Note that I am talking about waging a normal war like conquest/reconquest/holy war/expansion cb versus a nation you joined coalition against.
I’m fighting on two continents again, two BIG wars. Micromanaging hell, as always
Doing same old, I let Austrian armies attach to 1k merc stacks, and slaughter Ottomans with ‘m.
I really hope Venice and Austria will sink the Ottoman fleet there. Please AI? Do a joint naval battle?
This came as a total surprise to me
It seems the ruler in Milan died heirless. I never even noticed the nation was heirless (I was kinda busy).
What happened here? Well, Austria had RM with Milan. Since I am the biggest dynasty partner of Austria, I actually qualify to contest that succession as aggressive claimant, in a succession war.
Yeah riiiiight, as if I’m going to attack Austria
Its kinda funny. If my nation wasn’t of Habsburg dynasty, then Austria would have gotten a dynasty spread in Milan. But since I am, it became possible succession war. I backed down, and Austria got Milan as a free minor PU subject. If you want to know more on personal union mechanics, study my guide in my signature. But beware, this PU mechanic is very, very complex. And the guide aswell.
Venice tries to sink Ottomans.. Alone. Oh well. Ai will never learn
Blubblub Venice, BUT the ottoman fleet went to dock for repairs. The Bosporus was free to be crossed. Which I did… Got to use the momentum
The Austrian fleet and leftover Venice fleet block the Bosporus now. With the 1k stacks with Austrian army attached I killed stray heathen stacks. 2k merc stacks sieged stuff here and there, protected from danger. I slowly advanced.
I now take the fight more and more towards Persian land.
Meanwhile, my coalition war plan is working. I use my vassal armies and Wu as meat shield versus the big armies, and I’m sieging (or will siege rather) Chu, Tang and Qi with minimum forces.
That plan worked well in the end. Yue sieged up Champa (be my guest
) while I sieged and wiped all their allies.
Chu is fully sieged up, and I fed a great deal of them to Lan Xang. Next up is Tang and Qi.
Lan Xang got fed a bit more, and now they have land connection to the provinces they couldn’t core that were part of Shun before.. Yes, I did plan that ahead
I will try to core those coastal provinces. I say ‘try’ cause I kinda made an error there. The capital of Tang was in the way to feed Lan Xang a corridor to those provinces. Oh well. We’ll see what to do about that. Taking those provinces gave me holy war versus a load more nations.
Only one small problem. Lan Xang got overfed. I did my math wrong
Feeding a vassal over 100% overextension is baaaaad idea. I got rebels all over Lan Xang, after my vassal went into “internal conflicts” status.
I also got rebels in the coastal provinces I was trying to core. In a desperate move, I attacked Wu. This gave me a corridor through their allies to attack all rebels. The remains of Chu got called in, Along with the OPM Shu. In the end, I managed to kill all rebels, and I fed 10 base tax Shu to Pegu, and the 10 base tax capital of Chu to Lan Xang, who was now at 4.80 overextension after all this fuss. But it costed me all my forces and manpower in Asia. I cut my losses and gave Wu the coastal provinces. Oh well. At least my vassals gained a total of 20 base tax worth of provinces, and the rebels got dealt with.
Don’t ever overfeed vassals. Lesson learned
See a tip a bit below on how to semi-reliably feed vassals.
Back to the Otttoman war. I’m already getting call for peace modifier, but I could care less. I wanted to feed the horde! Exhaustion be ******, this will be worth it
So, I moved all my forces to Astrakhan/Golden Horde while Venice and Austria kept Ottomans and Persia busy.. Astrakhan fell first. I fed all but one province to Crimea. Some were cores they had, some provinces Crimea will have to core themselves.
Edit:
Uhm, you said u wanted to attack ottos with holy war so u can get 0dip provinces from their allies. however that only works if u negotiate with the ottomans. u just paid 200 dip for 4 provinces u gave to crimea. Btw, if u have a coalition against u, u can use the holy war cb and then take provinces from everybody with 0 dip. especially in 1.9 that is extremely useful when u attack a OPM (instant 100%) and then just siege the provinces u want, super easy to take 100% warscore in just 2 years.
Not true. It might say otherwise in the tooltip/peace deal window, but seperate peaces in a holy war will also cost 0 dip for provinces. AFAIK, seperate peaces have the same diplo costs for justified /unjustified demands for the CB you started the war with. Never really cross checked that for all CB though. The tooltip/peace window just lies. This tooltip bug has been around for many many patches. Diplo costs for vassal feeding are also displayed wrongly usually in tooltip/peace deal.